I'm waiting for it, too.
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| Author: | judicata [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:07 pm ] |
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Kiseido announced awhile back that it (John Power, I think) was translating a recent Japanese joseki dictionary. Winter was the originally-estimated publication date, but I think that was pushed to spring. Does anyone know anything more? |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:19 pm ] |
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I'm waiting for it, too.
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| Author: | kirkmc [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:14 am ] |
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Me three. Kiseido sends out emails when they have new books, so if you're on their list, you'll know. If not, I'll post something when I get the email. |
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| Author: | John Fairbairn [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:27 am ] |
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On 18 February 2011 John Power said to me re this book: Quote: I'm on the home stretch in the first volume. Since I am making the diagrams it's been very time-consuming and I lost the summer holidays last year with my London/Dublin trip. He's also extra busy at the moment with his day job. |
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| Author: | kirkmc [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:41 am ] |
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There are to be three volumes, right? In that case, we're quite a ways away from publication... |
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| Author: | gowan [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:21 am ] |
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It will be worth the wait judging from his other excellent translations. I can wait because I never learned all there was in the Ishida dictionary 
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| Author: | judicata [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:41 am ] |
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kirkmc wrote: There are to be three volumes, right? In that case, we're quite a ways away from publication... I think I remember reading that it would be two volumes--I'm trying to recall where I saw that. Thanks for that update, John. |
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| Author: | gowan [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:00 am ] |
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judicata wrote: kirkmc wrote: There are to be three volumes, right? In that case, we're quite a ways away from publication... I think I remember reading that it would be two volumes--I'm trying to recall where I saw that. Thanks for that update, John. The Japanese edition is two volumes. |
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| Author: | John Fairbairn [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:01 am ] |
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2 volumes. More from JP himself: Quote: I'm dong the new version of the joseki dictionary in GW format, thanks to which we can put it into two volumes and make the diagrams a little larger than the tiny ones in Ishida's DBJ. The book's not really late from JP's point of view. I gather Richard had to pluck a date out of the air for his e-journal ad. The one he grasped was just a bit optimistic. |
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| Author: | Nagilum [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:53 am ] |
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The german translation consists of three books. Volume one is now available and has 299 pages. I think i am a little afraid of the english version. 500 pages in the japanese original --> 600 pages in the translation? And also a bigger format than the ishida format? ( That is a assumption from the last post. Unfortunatly i dont know the GW format... ) It seems that the books of the english translation will be not as portable as the Ishida edition. As a german go player i am still not very familiar with the german go-language so i usually prefer an english book. But the portability of a book is more important for me. In the winter an unhandy book like "Invincible" or "Kamakura" may be ok but not when the sun is shining (or i am travelling by bus or train). 
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| Author: | Koosh [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:59 am ] |
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Considering that he's creating diagrams and arranging them to fit a horizontal instead of vertical format, I can only imagine how time consuming it is. |
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| Author: | oren [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:47 am ] |
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Koosh wrote: Considering that he's creating diagrams and arranging them to fit a horizontal instead of vertical format, I can only imagine how time consuming it is. Why do you say arranging horizontal instead of vertical? As far as I would assume, it's just page 1 is on the "wrong" side for English books. |
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| Author: | karaklis [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:36 am ] |
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Nagilum wrote: As a german go player i am still not very familiar with the german go-language so i usually prefer an english book. Same over here. My go books are all in English except for one (a game collection commented by Young Sun Yun). And I have no intention to buy German go books if there are English books available with the same content. I'll wait for the English joseki dictionary. |
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| Author: | judicata [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:11 am ] |
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Out of curiosity, who translated the German version? |
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| Author: | Mivo [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:39 am ] |
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karaklis wrote: Same over here. My go books are all in English except for one (a game collection commented by Young Sun Yun). And I have no intention to buy German go books if there are English books available with the same content. I'll wait for the English joseki dictionary. I actually picked up "Sanrensei - Die Power Eröffnung", since the English original ("The Power of the Star Point") is OOP and I couldn't even find it on ebay. I also have "Die Mitte des Himmels" and Dickfeld's "Leben und Tod", both of which are quite excellent (although Davies' L&D book makes the latter somewhat redundant). But that's pretty much it. My other ~55 Go books are all in English, and I'd generally buy an English translation (from Japanese) over a German one. (But I am glad that the number of German books has increased in the past few years since I'm sure that there are numerous people who are not quite as comfortable with English as some of us here.) |
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| Author: | kaimat [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:11 am ] |
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As a relatively new player I don't plan on getting a joseki dictionary for awhile yet (perhaps 38 basic joseki soon, but that's just to get me started), but when I do, would you recommend this new version over the 3 Ishida volumes on Kiseido, or should I perhaps get both? lol |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:30 am ] |
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kaimat wrote: would you recommend this new version over the 3 Ishida volumes on Kiseido, or should I perhaps get both? I'd be very happy to keep both.
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| Author: | judicata [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:41 pm ] |
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kaimat wrote: As a relatively new player I don't plan on getting a joseki dictionary for awhile yet (perhaps 38 basic joseki soon, but that's just to get me started), but when I do, would you recommend this new version over the 3 Ishida volumes on Kiseido, or should I perhaps get both? lol Obviously, I haven't seen the forthcoming books, so I can't comment on those. But if you are approaching SDK and/or are itching to study joseki this winter and the new books are still unavailable, I would probably grab Ishida's and a good game database. |
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