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Author:  andreyl [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:12 am ]
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Hi
I am a bit confused about proper books for my level.
I would like to break the wall of 2d-3d ,Any suggestions?
Thanks

Author:  daal [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:25 am ]
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Are you familiar with these books?

Author:  RobertJasiek [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:58 am ]
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- Rin Kaiho, Fuseki Dictionary
- Robert Jasiek, Fighting Fundamentals
- problem books with 1500 problems on life+death and tesuji suitable for your level (neither too easy nor too difficult)
- If you have knowledge gaps players at your level should already have overcome, also read the good books on the related topics.
- If you have enough money and time, it does not hurt to read also any number of further books.

Needless to say, you should do more than reading books. (You might ask in a different forum.)

Author:  bofinken [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:01 am ]
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It depends on what weaknesses one got. Problem books is always good of course. Graded go problems for Dan players as mentioned are good and cover a lot. Besides them you can always go to asian books:
* Lee ChangHo tsumego/tesuji (12 books) http://senseis.xmp.net/?LiChangHoJingjiangWeiqiSihuo and http://senseis.xmp.net/?LiChangHoJingjiangWeiqiShoujin
* Weiqi Tsumego 1000 Problems(http://senseis.xmp.net/?WeiqiLifeAndDeath1000Problems)
* Weiqi Tsumego Training (http://senseis.xmp.net/?WeiqiLifeAndDeathDrills)

I like Hinoki press books. Valery's new books are fine.
* Theory and practise of Analyses

* Best of Kidos: The Art of Positional analysis (also Hinoki press)

Author:  RobertJasiek [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:20 am ]
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bofinken wrote:
Valery's new books are fine.
* Theory and practise of Analyses


Why do you consider a book with many mistakes and much wasted space fine?

viewtopic.php?p=142912#p142912

Author:  bofinken [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:34 am ]
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I don't see "wasted space" as a problem and I think that the material in the book are interesting complement to other theory books that I have read. Sure there are typing errors and so on, but I try to focus on the more important part.

I pointed out these two books because I think it is a big focus area to become stronger. At least for me I find this area important.

Author:  RobertJasiek [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:53 am ]
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bofinken wrote:
Sure there are typing errors and so on, but I try to focus on the more important part.


Territorial positional judgement is one of the book's important parts, but there the book makes many errors much worse than typing errors.

Quote:
I pointed out these two books because I think it is a big focus area to become stronger.


It is, but a) 1 or 2 dans should already know this and b) these two books do not teach many aspects related to this topic of territorial positional judgement and do not show move sequences explaining which are the territory intersections.

Low dan players can still read books on that topic, if they have neglected it thus far, but they need more related theory than is in the mentioned books.

Author:  bofinken [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:27 am ]
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Ok. It hard to argue with your experience.
If positional judgement is a topic to study, which book do you recommend? Is it perhaps Positional Judgement 1. Territory by R. Jasiek?

Author:  pwaldron [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:49 am ]
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I haven't seen the Segoe tesuji collection mentioned yet, so I'll put my hand up for that one. I got mine from Yutopian and consider it my best go book purchase ever.

Author:  RobertJasiek [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:18 am ]
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bofinken wrote:
If positional judgement is a topic to study, which book do you recommend? Is it perhaps Positional Judgement 1. Territory by R. Jasiek?


Positional judgement is a broader topic than "territorial positional judgement". For the latter, I recommend the book you mention. (In particular, for 1 - 2d, I recommend it, because it contains useful, important information hard to find elsewhere in the literature. For you, I recommend it, because it has everything related to "territory" and missing in the other two books mentioned by you.)

For the non-territory aspects of positional judgement, first of all I recommend to know which they are: influence, thickness, mobility, choices, aji, development directions, types of fights, efficiency, connection status, life status, other strategic concepts of evaluation (such as methods of local positional judgement, tewari, unsettled groups average). I recommend to read related literature. However, positional judgement of influence is not completely covered in the literature yet. Therefore, at the moment, also seek every information about influence you can find.

EDIT: concepts added.

Author:  Bill Spight [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:42 am ]
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pwaldron wrote:
I haven't seen the Segoe tesuji collection mentioned yet, so I'll put my hand up for that one. I got mine from Yutopian and consider it my best go book purchase ever.


Is that the Segoe-Go Seigen collection, or the Tesuji Bible? Thanks. :)

Author:  tchan001 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:49 am ]
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Bill Spight wrote:
pwaldron wrote:
I haven't seen the Segoe tesuji collection mentioned yet, so I'll put my hand up for that one. I got mine from Yutopian and consider it my best go book purchase ever.


Is that the Segoe-Go Seigen collection, or the Tesuji Bible? Thanks. :)

viewtopic.php?p=87475#p87475

Author:  kupus [ Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:52 am ]
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Bill Spight wrote:
pwaldron wrote:
I haven't seen the Segoe tesuji collection mentioned yet, so I'll put my hand up for that one. I got mine from Yutopian and consider it my best go book purchase ever.


Is that the Segoe-Go Seigen collection, or the Tesuji Bible? Thanks. :)



Bill, which one is a Tesuji Bible book? Didnt hear/read about that one yet.

Thanks

Author:  tchan001 [ Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:58 am ]
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I think Bill is probably referring to this one >>> 手筋大事典
http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/pub/daijiten.htm

Author:  kupus [ Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:51 am ]
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tchan001 wrote:
I think Bill is probably referring to this one >>> 手筋大事典
http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/pub/daijiten.htm


Thanks. That's Nihon Kiin Tesuji Encyclopedia, right?

Author:  tchan001 [ Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:33 pm ]
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yes

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