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 Post subject: Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Post #61 Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm 
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Maharani wrote:
KataGo self-play (New Zealand rules, 7 komi) - game 1: https://online-go.com/review/442122

It was not a tie.

Game 4 will split off at a instead of D14:

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[go]$$Bc Game 4 split
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.sgf file:



EverettLiu, OGS 9d has left comments on this game. I've updated the OGS review as well as the .sgf, adding some bonus KataGo variations.


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 Post subject: Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Post #62 Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:10 pm 
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Maharani wrote:
Kata got mad at me for calling the previous game understandable by humans. Game 39 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is another absolutely alien-like game that involves incredible trades resulting in large territories on both sides and a breathtaking tie. Don't sleep on this one. https://online-go.com/review/543331

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[go]$$Wc Game 38 ended up diverging at a instead of Q14.
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


.sgf file:



Anton Christenson, EGF 3d did a 45-minute YouTube review of this game! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV9j4CrEUcc

I’ve added all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, to the OGS review as well.

I just remembered to update the .sgf in my 19x19 post as well. :)


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 Post subject: Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Post #63 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:45 pm 
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In game 40 (New Zealand rules, 7 komi), white builds a center moyo. Black invades it at move 63 and claims more than half of it. Some major trades occur elsewhere. In the end, black wins by 4 or 6 points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/546829

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[go]$$Bc Black to play.
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


.sgf file:



Attachments:
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 Post subject: Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Post #64 Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:28 am 
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Game 41 (New Zealand rules, 7 komi) was a spectacular, messy-looking whole-board fight. Another incredible tie, bringing our final tally of this series to 10 black wins, 11 ties and 20 white wins. I will return to exploring AGT positions until spook implements the newest Kata net on ZBaduk. https://online-go.com/demo/view/548813

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[go]$$Bc Black to play.
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


.sgf:



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Post #65 Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:47 pm 
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KataGo continuing from an AlphaGo Teach position, game 12: In which white almost makes a B2 bomber shape in the fuseki. Black refuses to be shown up and builds a proper B2 bomber later. The game is decided in a ko that is fought over 76 moves. https://online-go.com/review/549948

Cool winrate graph, too:

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[go]$$Wc AlphaGo Teach's opening (white 57 %)
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


.sgf:



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