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Post #21 Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:05 am 
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Just discovered this today; very glad I made the purchase.

I think the one request I could make that would overcome all the shortcomings of the viewer would be a way to send an SGF to another SGF editor on the phone. So, like, you use Go4Go to search and preview a game, but if you want to try out some variations on your own, you'd be able to load it in BW-Go instead. There's no reason for every Go app to eventually re-implement a full-fledged tree editor.

Besides that, it's pretty much exactly what I've been hoping for for years :)

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Post #22 Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:09 am 
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This is a great app. I'd love to see more filters - for instance, have the option to select a second player and see all of the matches between the first player and second. Also helpful would be a filter as to which player or which color won.

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Post #23 Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:48 pm 
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Since the app's key feature is access to the online database, does it support saving game records to the device for later offline viewing?

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Post #24 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:44 am 
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To apetresc: I will look into providing an option to open the games in external Apps. I understand the external app involved need to support this, so I will have to investigate more.

To Monadology: more filters will be added.

To Drew, currently all games you open will be automatically saved in your History folder which can be accessed from the main menu. When you click a game in the History list, the App reads locally stored data and will not use the internet. Almost everything else requires an active Internet connection, including the scorer (even when you open a locally stored game).


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Post #25 Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:12 am 
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I have the App for about 5 minutes and I like it lot. What I would like to have is...

1. Pattern Search and
2. Marking dead stones in the SE.

But that has been said already. Keep up your great work!

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Post #26 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:26 pm 
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Release version 1.0.4 today:

- Added filters for tournament search, so for a tournament with many games, one can select a subset of games to show.
- From settings, one can set to 'hide results in games list'. Settings can now be accessed from main menu too.
- Other small UI improvements, including fixed launcher icon which was of incorrect size.


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Post #27 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:58 pm 
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Thank you for adding the no-spoiler mode! It's really great to suggest a feature and have it implemented so quickly :tmbup:


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Post #28 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:56 am 
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Is there a way to keep the screen on when viewing autoplay? Currently I must tap the device when it starts to dim because it thinks I'm not using it.

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Post #29 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:01 am 
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Drew wrote:
Is there a way to keep the screen on when viewing autoplay? Currently I must tap the device when it starts to dim because it thinks I'm not using it.


This is a system setting. I don't think an App should intervene, even if that is technically possible. Under the Display section of your Settings, you should be able to set a longer time before the system trying to go to sleep.

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Post #30 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:29 am 
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Drew wrote:
Is there a way to keep the screen on when viewing autoplay? Currently I must tap the device when it starts to dim because it thinks I'm not using it.


This is a system setting. I don't think an App should intervene, even if that is technically possible. Under the Display section of your Settings, you should be able to set a longer time before the system trying to go to sleep.


You are correct in that it IS a system setting, but it can also be controlled by apps. Otherwise, how could you possibly watch a video on your Android device? I do not wish to change my screen-off time setting temporarily each time I wish to watch Go4Go autoplay...

Edit to add link to StackOverflow example with wake lock


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Post #31 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:19 am 
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The Wbaduk app overrides the phone's screen turn off feature, but in an annoying buggy way so use this with care! If I open the app and auto-replay some game the screen doesn't turn off :tmbup: . However if I finish and turn off my screen and leave my phone sitting on the table and a few minutes later the connection to Wbaduk drops then the app goes back to the home screen with a "Disconnected" message across the top, and seemingly interprets this as activity within the app and turns my phone screen on again, and it stays on forever (often through the night if I was looking at a game in bed)! :tmbdown: :tmbdown: :tmbdown:

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Post #32 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:44 am 
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Drew wrote:
Since the app's key feature is access to the online database, does it support saving game records to the device for later offline viewing?


I second this - it would be very nice to be able to use the app without internet connection!

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Post #33 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:09 am 
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Drew wrote:
Since the app's key feature is access to the online database, does it support saving game records to the device for later offline viewing?


I second this - it would be very nice to be able to use the app without internet connection!


You can, games you have already viewed can be accessed without internet connection from the History section (click menu top left even though main page has loading spinner).

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Post #34 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:51 am 
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Drew wrote:
You are correct in that it IS a system setting, but it can also be controlled by apps. Otherwise, how could you possibly watch a video on your Android device? I do not wish to change my screen-off time setting temporarily each time I wish to watch Go4Go autoplay...

Edit to add link to StackOverflow example with wake lock


Thanks for the suggestion, together with the technical solution. It is actually fairly easy to implement in my code. So this function will be available in the next release. I shall have this tested more thoroughly.


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Post #35 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:39 pm 
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Uberdude wrote:
The Wbaduk app overrides the phone's screen turn off feature, but in an annoying buggy way so use this with care!


The link I provided has several examples. There are both right ways and wrong ways to keep the device awake.

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this function will be available in the next release.


Thank you for being receptive to my suggestion.

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Post #36 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:49 pm 
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Feature Request: search for games between two opponents. Currently you can search for one participant, but not both.

Odd Behavior: on my Samsung tablet with screen locked at landscape, Go4Go forces portrait mode when launched, BUT when viewing History it reverts to landscape mode. I am ok but not delighted with forcing portrait mode at all times, lots of Go apps do this, but bouncing back and forth is not desirable.

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Post #37 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:30 am 
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Very nice!

Some remarks (and hopes)

The title of the games is occasionaly rather long (for example the alphago matches). On my mobile (s4mini) the titles are too long to fit on the screen, and the end of the title is usually an important identifier (like game 1 or 2). Please make them scrollable.

I like Goquests way of tapping the board: right hand side for forward and left hand side for backward. I often tap on the left only to find out that the game advances.

In case you implement a placing stone functionality:

- I'd love a guess move feature
- Trying out variations would be great

Occasionaly there are strange things: 13th Chinese Changqi Cup, round 1, Tao Xinran vs Wang Xi: result says W+1 but the game end position looks more like somebody resigned or that 20 moves are missing. If you install a "report game" feature you might get some feedback about those.

Lastly shouldn't the ruleset be specified in the game info? Maybe this is overrated. I don't know how the databases out there usually handle this.

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Post #38 Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:00 am 
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bayu wrote:
Very nice!


Thanks!

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Some remarks (and hopes)

The title of the games is occasionaly rather long (for example the alphago matches). On my mobile (s4mini) the titles are too long to fit on the screen, and the end of the title is usually an important identifier (like game 1 or 2). Please make them scrollable.


I see, for screens with low resolution this can be a problem. I will investigate if I can animate the game description with marquee effect.

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I like Goquests way of tapping the board: right hand side for forward and left hand side for backward. I often tap on the left only to find out that the game advances.


Interesting idea. This may not be the desired effect by many users, in particular those who use left hand to navigate the games. I will investigate how to do this, however it will not be the default behaviour and will have to be turned on from a user setting.

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In case you implement a placing stone functionality:

- I'd love a guess move feature
- Trying out variations would be great

Occasionaly there are strange things: 13th Chinese Changqi Cup, round 1, Tao Xinran vs Wang Xi: result says W+1 but the game end position looks more like somebody resigned or that 20 moves are missing. If you install a "report game" feature you might get some feedback about those.


The database is only as good as its data source. A small number of games are not completely recorded but game results can often be found from news sources, causing the discrepancy.

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Lastly shouldn't the ruleset be specified in the game info? Maybe this is overrated. I don't know how the databases out there usually handle this.


Unfortunately the database does not contain this information. The following should cover 99% of the cases:
- Domestic Chinese games use Chinese Rule
- Domestic Japanese/Korean games user Japanes/Korean Rule (consider them the same for this dicscussion)
- International games mostly use the ruleset from the hosting country (e.g. Chunlan Cup uses the Chinese Rule, Samsung Cup uses the Korean Rule)
- A small number of bilateral games (e.g. China-Japan Tengen) may use multiple rulesets (Chinese Rule when held in China and Japanese Rule when held in Japan)
- Ing Rule becomes increasingly rare - Ing Cup, Chinese Changqi Cup and few Taiwanese tournaments are the only tournaments using it.

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Post #39 Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:10 am 
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Drew wrote:
Feature Request: search for games between two opponents. Currently you can search for one participant, but not both.

Odd Behavior: on my Samsung tablet with screen locked at landscape, Go4Go forces portrait mode when launched, BUT when viewing History it reverts to landscape mode. I am ok but not delighted with forcing portrait mode at all times, lots of Go apps do this, but bouncing back and forth is not desirable.


In the next release I will also lock the History screen in portrait so that it behaves consistently. I will design something special for tablet in the future.

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Post #40 Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:37 am 
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Go4Go Android Client v1.0.5

Just release a new version at Google Play Store. Depending on where you are, it might take a few hours to get it. This version contains the following changes:

- New feature: it is now possible to access the old defunct tournaments. Use the menu in the Tournament Search screen to swap active/defunct tournaments. Lots of old games can be easily found this way.
- Enhancement: when game autoplaying is in progress, your device will not attempt to dim or turn off your screen (thanks Drew for the technical solution)
- Bug fix: quickly tapping a game list would open game multiple times, now fixed
- Bug fix: a rare situlation that would crash the App while using History screen
- Bug fix: game information & filter search result dialogs could be displayed in incorrect size (too small or text truncated) under certain Android versions. Fixed. The dialogs may need some more work.
- Enhancement: lock the History screen in portrait mode, consistent with other game lists.
- Other minor UI improvements


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