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Author:  Maharani [ Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

After one win from each colour, we have our first tie! :)

KataGo self-play (New Zealand rules, 7 komi) - game 3: https://online-go.com/review/447990

Interesting winrate graph: https://i.ibb.co/rpyTgR3/Screen-Shot-20 ... -55-AM.png

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[go]$$Wc Game 2 continued at a instead of G4. Game 5 will split off at b.
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kg_7_komi_game_3.sgf [2.3 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 4 (self-play, New Zealand rules, 7 komi) featured four dragons duking it out in the center. One side sacrifices eighteen stones and ends up winning the game by 72 points or so. New title holder of "shortest game in this thread" :)

https://online-go.com/demo/view/448780

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[go]$$Bc Game 1 continued at a instead of F17. Game 40 will continue at b.
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kg_7_komi_game_4.sgf [1.67 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 5 is our newest winner of "shortest game in the thread so far": W+20 or so. https://online-go.com/demo/view/448967

At some point, I'll split a game at a instead of M5:

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[go]$$Wc Game 11 will continue at a instead of M5.
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kg_7_komi_game_5.sgf [1.54 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 6 is our newest- you guys get the gist by now. How short can these games get? :) Hopeless for black at move 184. White seems to be up by 16 - 18 points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/450285

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[go]$$Wc In game 2, black played at a instead of R14.
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kg_7_komi_game_6.sgf [1.47 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

xela wrote:
Here are a few interesting moments from game 1:


I've added more KataGo variations to all of your suggested Leela Zero variations for KataGo + AlphaGo Teach games 1 and 2.

.sgf file with comments for game 1:



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KG_+_AGT_game_1.sgf [15.22 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 2 in particular is now chock-full of endgame sequences that can only be described as elaborate. :)

.sgf file with comments:



In other news, KataGo (NZ rules, 7 komi) self-play game 7, which is currently under way, will introduce 3-4 points into the fuseki. :)

EDIT: Added .sgf embeds for all KataGo NZ self-play games in this thread.

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KG_+_AGT_game_2.sgf [7.65 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

KataGo (NZ rules, 7 komi) self-play game 7 - black wins by 26 points or so: https://online-go.com/review/452290

This brings our current tally to 2 black wins, 1 tie and 4 white wins.

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[go]$$Wc Game 7 and seventeen other games continue at D17. Five games continue at a instead. At least ten games will continue at b.
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kg_7_komi_game_7.sgf [1.54 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

KataGo (NZ rules, 7 komi) self-play game 8 turned into an early center fight. Black won by 8 or so: https://online-go.com/demo/view/454459

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[go]$$Wc Game 7 continued at a instead of J17.
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kg_7_komi_game_8.sgf [2.24 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Can you say messy and complicated? If you can, that means you're equipped to describe game 9 (NZ rules, 7 komi). :) Half of the board turns into a giant semeai, and white wins by 76 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/456124

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[go]$$Bc In game 1, white played at a instead of D10. Three games will continue at b. Eight games will continue at c.
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kg_7_komi_game_9.sgf [2.46 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 10 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was the first close game since the tie in game 3, white by 2 points it looks like. Peaceful game with huge territories on either side. Quite pleasing-looking to this 11k human :) https://online-go.com/demo/view/456362

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[go]$$Bc Game 73 continues at a instead of F11.
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kg_7_komi_game_10.sgf [25.27 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 11 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is back to messy and complicated. Very alien-looking to me. Black by 10 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/457391

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[go]$$Wc Check out the symmetry in the lower left!
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kg_7_komi_game_11.sgf [1.54 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 12 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is probably my favourite game in this thread so far. The fuseki looks like drunk humans playing, and after that it's just one breathtaking magic trick after another - to end in only our second tie so far. Beautiful game. https://online-go.com/review/458154

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[go]$$Wc Fourteen other games will also continue at P4. Games 7, 8 and 23 continue at a instead.
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kg_7_komi_game_12.sgf [43.97 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 13 (NZ rules, 7 komi) ends up with huge territories on both sides, yet very close (looks like white by 2 points). https://online-go.com/review/459574

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[go]$$Wc Games 12, 14 and 17 continue at a instead of Q5.
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kg_7_komi_game_13.sgf [2.68 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 14 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was a complicated game with small territories and a confusing endgame that ended up as our third tie. https://online-go.com/review/460430

Our current tally: 4 black wins, 3 ties, 7 white wins.

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[go]$$Bc Game 17 will also continue at C9. Game 12 continued at a instead.
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kg_7_komi_game_14.sgf [2.47 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

KataGo continuing from an AlphaGo Teach position, game 11: Black not only goes for vast amounts of influence, but actually uses it to build a giant center territory. White takes three and a half corners and wins by 2.5 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/441359

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[go]$$Bc AlphaGo Teach's opening (white 55 %)
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KG_+_AGT_game_11.sgf [1.92 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 15 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was another complicated game. A lot of small groups, including an early-game seki. The winrate stayed even throughout until black crashed at move 225. https://online-go.com/review/465809

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[go]$$Wc Four games continued at a instead of C14. Eleven games will continue at b.
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kg_7_komi_game_15.sgf [28.56 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 16 (NZ rules, 7 komi) sees black going for max influence and building a giant center moyo. White grabs a huge bottom, sacrifices a group of 20 stones in exchange for the privilege to linearly reduce black's moyo to nothing, and wins by 10 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/466797

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[go]$$Wc Game 15 continued at a instead of G7.
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kg_7_komi_game_16.sgf [1.56 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 17 (NZ rules, 7 komi) starts out complicated, but then everything settles at once and the rest is endgame. White ends up with three corners, but black wins by 2 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/467380

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[go]$$Bc Game 14 (which ended as a tie) continued at a instead of J5.
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kg_7_komi_game_17.sgf [1.8 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 18 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was maybe the weirdest game in this thread so far. I won't pretend to understand anything that happened here. Can someone get Michael Redmond on the line? https://online-go.com/review/469244

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[go]$$Wc Game 21 also continues at H3. Games 19, 20, 35, 36 and 41 continue at a instead.
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kg_7_komi_game_18.sgf [1.92 KiB]
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Author:  Maharani [ Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Game 19 (NZ rules, 7 komi) starts off with a complicated fight on the lower side. As it sprawls out, it looks more like a game of tetris or battleship than a game of go. White wins by 8 points or so. https://online-go.com/demo/view/494668

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[go]$$Bc Game 20 also continues at K5. Games 35, 36 and 41 will continue instead at a, b and c, respectively.
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kg_7_komi_game_19.sgf [1.67 KiB]
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