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Author: | Maharani [ Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
Maharani wrote: KataGo self-play (New Zealand rules, 7 komi) - game 1: https://online-go.com/review/442122 It was not a tie. .sgf file: EverettLiu, OGS 9d has left comments on this game. I've updated the OGS review as well as the .sgf, adding some bonus KataGo variations.
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Author: | Maharani [ Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:10 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
Maharani wrote: Kata got mad at me for calling the previous game understandable by humans. Game 39 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is another absolutely alien-like game that involves incredible trades resulting in large territories on both sides and a breathtaking tie. Don't sleep on this one. https://online-go.com/review/543331 .sgf file: Anton Christenson, EGF 3d did a 45-minute YouTube review of this game! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV9j4CrEUcc I’ve added all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, to the OGS review as well. I just remembered to update the .sgf in my 19x19 post as well.
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Author: | Maharani [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:45 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
In game 40 (New Zealand rules, 7 komi), white builds a center moyo. Black invades it at move 63 and claims more than half of it. Some major trades occur elsewhere. In the end, black wins by 4 or 6 points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/546829 .sgf file:
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Author: | Maharani [ Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:28 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
Game 41 (New Zealand rules, 7 komi) was a spectacular, messy-looking whole-board fight. Another incredible tie, bringing our final tally of this series to 10 black wins, 11 ties and 20 white wins. I will return to exploring AGT positions until spook implements the newest Kata net on ZBaduk. https://online-go.com/demo/view/548813 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:47 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
KataGo continuing from an AlphaGo Teach position, game 12: In which white almost makes a B2 bomber shape in the fuseki. Black refuses to be shown up and builds a proper B2 bomber later. The game is decided in a ko that is fought over 76 moves. https://online-go.com/review/549948 Cool winrate graph, too: .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:42 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
My next project is to explore AlphaGo teach positions in which white makes a mistake on move 2 in order to get the winrate closer to 50 % (continuing with KataGo at the end of AGT's sequence). Game 13: https://online-go.com/review/551206 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:36 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
Maharani wrote: Game 12 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is probably my favourite game in this thread so far. The fuseki looks like drunk humans playing, and after that it's just one breathtaking magic trick after another - to end in only our second tie so far. Beautiful game. https://online-go.com/review/458154 .sgf: Anton Christenson, EGF 3d did a 65-minute YouTube review of this game! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV9j4CrEUcc I’ve added all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, to the OGS review as well.
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Author: | Maharani [ Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:25 pm ] | ||||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||||
My current project, which started with game 13, is to explore AlphaGo teach positions in which white makes a mistake on move 2 in order to get the winrate closer to 50 % (continuing with KataGo at the end of AGT's sequence). White won game 14 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) by 0.5 points: https://online-go.com/review/555588 .sgf: In game 15 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi), black slays white's dragon and wins big. Noteworthily, Leela Zero gives white 64 % winrate as late as move 275: https://online-go.com/review/557168 .sgf: In game 16 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi), it is black's dragon that dies: https://online-go.com/review/559409 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:55 pm ] | ||||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||||
White wins game 17 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) by 26 points or so: https://online-go.com/review/562045 .sgf: Likewise, white is ahead by about 26 points again by the end of game 18 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi): https://online-go.com/review/564920 .sgf: Black wins game 19 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) by 1.5 points or so. Leela Zero gives white 62 % winrate as late as move 308: https://online-go.com/review/568395 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:06 pm ] | |||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | |||
White wins game 20 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) by 2.5 points or so: https://online-go.com/review/572299 .sgf: In my endeavour of exploring AlphaGo Teach positions (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) in which white plays a mistake on move 2 to give black a closer-to-even winrate, KataGo has found a few move 2s which are not included in AlphaGo Teach’s database. This is my first pure KataGo self-play game with Chinese rules and 7.5 komi, in which white miscalculates a ko and black is ahead by about 27 points by move 179: https://online-go.com/review/578137 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:25 pm ] | ||||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||||
Black wins game 21 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) by 1.5 points: https://online-go.com/review/585814 .sgf: White wins game 22 by 4.5 points or so: https://online-go.com/review/587157 .sgf: Black wins game 23 by 1.5 points: https://online-go.com/review/587863 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:24 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
White wins the IMO beautifully balanced 24th game by 0.5 points: https://online-go.com/review/591763 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games |
Maharani wrote: Game 15 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was another complicated game. A lot of small groups, including an early-game seki. The winrate stayed even throughout until black crashed at move 225. https://online-go.com/review/465809 .sgf: Anton Christenson, EGF 3d did a 78-minute YouTube review of this game! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T2QPBcjab4 I’ve added all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, to the OGS review as well. |
Author: | Maharani [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:11 am ] | |||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | |||
Black wins game 25 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) by 1.5 points: https://online-go.com/review/596153 .sgf: White wins game 26 by 0.5 points: https://online-go.com/review/598754 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:17 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
In my endeavour of exploring AlphaGo Teach positions (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) in which white plays a mistake on move 2 to give black a closer-to-even winrate, KataGo has found a few move 2s which are not included in AlphaGo Teach’s database. This is my second pure KataGo self-play game with Chinese rules and 7.5 komi, which black wins by 1.5 points: https://online-go.com/review/600621 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:10 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
White wins game 27 (Chinese rules, 7.5 komi) by at least 2.5 points: https://online-go.com/review/603209 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:01 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
In my series of "white mistakes on move 2 to get winrates closer to 50 %", I've most recently played game 42 of my KataGo (7 komi, NZ rules) series. This is, as far as I recall, the first game in this series in which KataGo plays a 3-3 invasion of a lone 4-4 stone. As if on purpose, not long after the invasion joseki is finished, KataGo sacrifices the entire invading group and the other player builds an 80-point territory around it. As with all ties in this series, black's winrate first drops considerably before it goes back up towards 50 %, but in this game, the initial drop is much steeper (to around 14 %) and I almost resigned the game for black after it wastes a few ko threats. The winrate slants back up once white decides to waste a few ko threats of its own. Did I mention the black stone which white captures in a ladder three times before black saves it in the end? Funny game. https://online-go.com/review/605796 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games |
Maharani wrote: Bonus game continued from a sequence suggested by ELF OpenGo v2: https://online-go.com/review/433241 .sgf: Example screenshot from ZBaduk (LeeLa is in red, but I only ever played KataGo's moves): https://i.ibb.co/Xtmyt2z/Screen-Shot-20 ... -12-AM.png Anton Christenson, EGF 3d did a 65-minute YouTube review of this game! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ1piEevIp8 I’ve added all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, to the OGS review as well. |
Author: | Maharani [ Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:49 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
Game 43 (7 komi, NZ rules) was the latest in my series of high-playout KataGo self-play games with a white mistake on move 2 to get winrates closer to 50 %. This one featured complicated fighting everywhere. White sacrifices 14 stones inside black's right side territory with no clear (to me) benefit or loss. It ended up as a tie. https://online-go.com/review/613241 .sgf:
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Author: | Maharani [ Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:55 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games | ||
Game 44 (7 komi, NZ rules) was the first game in this series using a new KataGo net! As a reward, we get our first game with a black 3-4 opening. Early fighting breaks out in the lower-right corner and black builds a center moyo as a result. Another tie. https://online-go.com/review/619886 .sgf:
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