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Post #1 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:39 am 
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The best app for Go, leading all existing apps by one generation.

✓ The only iOS Go app with the UI matching morden people's expectation. Stunning graphics with core graphics, core animation, core text, and powerful iOS 5.0+ features.

✓ The most powerful SGF viewer and editor on iPhone. Supporting most intuitive way of zooming, viewing variants, creating markers of stones, numbers, comments, with lots of other customizations, etc.

✓ Innovative book style view with page curling effect.

✓ The first time that image recognition technology implemented in Go game area!

✓ Seamlessly integration with the web to support unlimited download of go games. Supporting one touch of SGF link to view, and importing zipped SGF archives with the full-fledged embedded web browser.

✓ Born social. Tightly integrated with Facebook, twitter, Sina to post and share your comments for your favorite games.

✓ PDF book creation. You could customize the generation of PDF books from your own games so that you could share them everywhere.

✓ Search engine technology to enable you to find a game easily.

✓ Products from Prof. software engineer with Go Amateur 5d + Ph.D. in Computer Science, with 5+ years of experiences from MSFT + Goog.

✓ "Jailbreak" machine unfriendly. A great way to protect customer's right.

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Post #2 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:07 am 
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Uhm, didn’t you post this in “Announcements” already? Why a second, identical very similar thread opening in this forum? Double posts are not nice and also counter productive b/c they split our attention.

Also, nevermind how good your app may be, IMNSHO the claim “best iOS app” is a bit boastful when there are quite a few other very nice iOS apps which are also discussed here (SmartGo Kifu, EasyGo, etc.)

Like with books <cough>, I for one prefer the author/developer to explain/show their features instead of saying “mine is the biggest, buy me”. Yes, you list features, but “best” goes over the top for me, your users can and will come up with their own judgements. And you don’t want to be perceived as a spammer, do you?

Just my opinion.

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Post #3 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:51 am 
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Oh, sorry about it.
Just discovered that it would be more related to post in this section as it is for computer go. Didn't find a way to cross ref or move that from announcement.

Best is just like what iPhone claims itself when it is out.

The features in this app (book curling view, image recognition, etc.) are the first time (innovative) ways for displaying go. And the UI is much superior than all existing apps including those look once very nice.

Sorry again about posting duplicate post. Maybe I just delete the previous one in announcement as it is not targeting at the right audience. Thanks for the reminder.


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Post #4 Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:38 pm 
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I for one am fascinated by the following characterization here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/go-eye/id562516957?mt=8

" Category: Sports

...

You must be at least 17 years old to download this app.

Frequent/Intense Mature/Suggestive Themes
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Post #5 Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:23 pm 
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saxmaam wrote:
I for one am fascinated by the following characterization here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/go-eye/id562516957?mt=8

" Category: Sports

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You must be at least 17 years old to download this app.

Frequent/Intense Mature/Suggestive Themes
"

All apps that access the internet carry this warning (except the apple device itself! AFAIK).

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Post #6 Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:57 pm 
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I had appealed this to Apple and got this answer:

"We appreciate you taking the time to provide feedback on the review guidelines. We understand that you don't agree with the 17+ rating for unfiltered internet access. We have forwarded it to the appropriate team who will investigate and follow up as needed.

Thank you for your commitment to iOS development."

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Post #7 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:03 pm 
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ez4u wrote:
All apps that access the internet carry this warning (except the apple device itself! AFAIK).


Such a tease.

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Post #8 Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:01 pm 
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I have already bought SmartGo Kifu for my iPad. Why would I want to invest another 20 for this app?

(This is a dead honest question. I look around YouTube for videos of people using this but found nothing. I’m pretty happy with SmartGo Kifu app, so I’m wounding if GoEye has anything that might be worth 20 dollars.)

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Post #9 Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:04 pm 
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cook777 wrote:
I have already bought SmartGo Kifu for my iPad. Why would I want to invest another 20 for this app?

(This is a dead honest question. I look around YouTube for videos of people using this but found nothing. I’m pretty happy with SmartGo Kifu app, so I’m wounding if GoEye has anything that might be worth 20 dollars.)


I like SmartGo Kifu a bit better, but GoEye is not that bad, either. SmartGo Kifu comes with a set of pro games, whereas GoEye has integration with sites like Go4Go and Flygo.net.

Viewing experience is pretty similar between the two, but GoEye includes a nice PDF view that makes the SGF look like you're reading diagrams in a book.

Since GoEye doesn't have a set of SGFs built in, and relies on integration with external websites, it's a bit easier to stay up to date with the most recent games.

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( Sorry, didn't notice the OP was dated 2012... :blackeye:
But my assessment below still stands, for 2012 or 2018. )

Congrats on the software. However,
GoEye2012 wrote:
The best app for Go, leading all existing apps by one generation.

✓ The only iOS Go app with the UI matching morden people's expectation. Stunning graphics with core graphics
Sorry, based on the first screenshot at the app store,
I find the board and stones very ugly.

The board and stones are not only not 1-gen ahead,
I feel they're about 10+ years behind --
even IGS's client's board and stones from the early 2000's look much better.

If you charge people US$19.99 for a Go app,
it seems obvious you should've hired good-level graphics designers.
(Apparently not the case here.)
The board and stones are very ugly, IMO:
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Post #11 Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:21 am 
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That is your feelings and I cannot change. But many users accept it as the best, which you cannot change either :)

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Post #12 Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:02 am 
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Opinions are opinions. For the sake of information, here is a comparison between a few popular apps (on iOS):

GoEye:
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EasyGo:
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SmartGo:
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Personally, my favorite aspect of GoEye is the pdf view.

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GoEye2012 wrote:
That is your feelings and I cannot change.
I'm open minded: happy to change my evaluation if you improve the board and stones.

But is good taste teachable ? ( NY Times article, Oct 4, 2017 )
Tougher question to crack.

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Post #14 Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:59 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
Personally, my favorite aspect of GoEye is the pdf view.


Not to far off from SmartGo book view. Looks like GoEye has more of a printed book look. So far they seem the same.

My favorite feature of SmartGo is the search feature. I can find pro games that have same pusition in my own games. Doesn’t look like GoEye has that. (Sound like I can only do a board search for my own games.)

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Post #15 Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:27 pm 
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cook777 wrote:
Kirby wrote:
Personally, my favorite aspect of GoEye is the pdf view.


Not to far off from SmartGo book view. Looks like GoEye has more of a printed book look. So far they seem the same.



Good point. SmartGo has book view in color, whereas GoEye has in black and white.

Which looks better depends on preference, I guess.

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Post #16 Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:46 pm 
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Let me explain how the stones and board are created in Go Eye. Let's take a look at the high resolution of Go Eye (After pinch gesture to zoom in, Lee Sedol's 4th game vs AlphaGo )

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They are not created by any human actually, let alone designers, or downloading from the Internet, or from some other people's photos.

They are rendered by iOS offline. Check the black and white stones, the light is cast at the upper left center part (about (0.25, 0.25 if viewing a stone in the unit square), and gradually spreads to the whole stone. Further zooming it in using Mac's preview and captured it as shown below (a little blurred as it is zoomed by preview without using super pixel technology).

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I guess that the cost for generating the stones may (or may not) be more expensive than hiring a designer. As it takes the time to code and many iterations to reach a satisfactory stone. At least they look decent.

And it matches the shadow well (Please check other popular similar apps for shadow. And see if they can zoom in or not.)

Guess where the board texture is from? Again, it is generated, instead of copying from random background files from Internet, or from some uploaded photos.

Why do the author prefer this way? First it avoids copyright issues. And for computers, it is a pure environment with only physical laws to govern the output results, without affected by any ambient light. It has something the author pursuits, the purity.

If you like this work by computers, you may like it more after my explanation (or feel cheated). If you dislike, you can continue to say something "or, it is not from designers, not even human, poor crab work." (or change your mind). But the author accepts that it is natural. Whatever solution, it cannot satisfy all. Human beings are different:)

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Post #17 Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:56 pm 
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I think the stones and board look alright. My guess is that the push back you received about the graphics was a result of the advertisement of having "stunning graphics". Whether or not they are stunning, I don't know, but with a strong statement like that, I think it's natural for people to critique it.

Anyway, good job on your app. I enjoy using it.

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Post #18 Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:27 pm 
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Anymore updates on the development on this app?

I’m actually looking forward for more updates and improvements on GoEye too :tmbup:

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Post #19 Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:45 pm 
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Don't hold your breath waiting for a response. According to GoEye2012's profile, "Last visited: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:48 pm". :(

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Post #20 Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:10 pm 
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I still use this app frequently to open recent pro games, copy the sgf, and paste it into “A Master of Go” for AI analysis.

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