I think the real question is whether the Seattle Go imbroglio scandalized the Chinese pros - I'm not sure what else could have kept four of them away from North Carolina.

So, I looked at the 2011 figures, where we had 2 Kansai Kiin pros, 3 Nihon Kiin pros, 2 Korean pros, 5 Chinese pros, and 10 pros from the US/Canada/Europe. This year the comparable numbers are 1/0/2/1/9. I think the real question is whether the Seattle Go imbroglio scandalized the Chinese pros - I'm not sure what else could have kept four of them away from North Carolina.

As for Nihon Kiin, there were reasons why they withdrew their pros from the 2012 Congress and indeed it had to do with SGC. But all problems are cleared now and we may safely expect normal exchange to resume in 2013.

Could you elaborate on this? How do you come by your information?

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VP - International Thomas Hsiang

The numbers depend on how you count. Officially, we have two pros from China each year. In 2012, one of them had trouble with visa and could not make it. So, it is Hillary's fault. ^^ But, no, it had nothing to do with Seattle.

As for Nihon Kiin, there were reasons why they withdrew their pros from the 2012 Congress and indeed it had to do with SGC. But all problems are cleared now and we may safely expect normal exchange to resume in 2013.

Don't want to tell you guys that I told you so. But, I told you so.

Thanks to sgc for damaging relations. I hope you really appreciate and are grateful for your purpose built game hall, and use it to the fullest extent. As every other club in the usa must use a bookstore, cafe or private residence.

Don't want to tell you guys that I told you so. But, I told you so.

Thanks to sgc for damaging relations. I hope you really appreciate and are grateful for your purpose built game hall, and use it to the fullest extent. As every other club in the usa must use a bookstore, cafe or private residence.

Or, rather, that formal clarification of the original "deal" was successfully obtained and the wishes of Iwamoto-sensei were preserved. It is unfortunate, though, that a lawsuit (or the threat of one) and a lot of bad PR had to occur in order to secure this outcome.

It seems to me that a couple of lessons can be learned from all this:

A) If one does not wish to get stung, one ought not go around knocking over hornet's nests.

B) If one wishes to remain on good terms with someone, one ought not sting them, even if they are knocking over your nest.

From what I have read so far it looks like the Nihon Kiin went over the AGA's head in promoting go in the west.

Where can I read more about the history of Nihon Ki-in / AGA relations? thank you.