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Author:  Javaness [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:17 am ]
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Just wanted to see if anyone else misses the pink stones

Author:  Phelan [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Extra stone colours

I didn't play enough with them to miss them, but I liked wms' idea of having different stone and board sets on KGS.

On OGS, I feel like I can't look at a game without my custom board and stones skin. :roll:

Author:  Solomon [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:42 am ]
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The pink stones killed me inside. I think Black and White should be sufficient ;).

Author:  Kirby [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:43 am ]
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While we're at it, can we have the 9d ranks back, too?

Author:  POGO [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:02 am ]
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I used to use turbogo alot when i was pre 18k

and i loved the ability to change the board/stones to custom ones you made.

(i miss my nod board and red/black stones)


Ether way id like the ability to have some choices, like plain white black/current/or upload custom from your computer.

Author:  Chew Terr [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:15 am ]
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I like the idea of alternate designs for stones and boards.

First, there should be a configuration option to always use the default colors. That way, if someone does not like unusual boards/stones, they can make it so that they only have to see 'vanilla' stuff. Any players that don't have these 'vanilla-colored glasses' settings set will see whatever stones they and their opponent have chosen.

Second, WMS deserves money for all his work, so some stones/boards should be purchase/KGS+ subscription only.

Third, unlockables make videogames more fun/replayable. Certain stone sets and boards should become available either with rank, or with number of wins.

Some stone sets may only be available to winners of tournaments and such, as a mark of prestige.

This setup is much more complicated than 'anyone can buy anything', but it seems interesting and not too much harder to make.

Author:  lorill [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:52 am ]
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Am I the only one using untextured stones & goban ? The textured set is so ugly :|

Author:  CarlJung [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:55 am ]
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lorill wrote:
Am I the only one using untextured stones & goban ? The textured set is so ugly :|


I did that too for the same reason. But I have lowered my standards and play with the default now.

Author:  POGO [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:56 am ]
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Chew Terr wrote:
I like the idea of alternate designs for stones and boards.

First, there should be a configuration option to always use the default colors. That way, if someone does not like unusual boards/stones, they can make it so that they only have to see 'vanilla' stuff. Any players that don't have these 'vanilla-colored glasses' settings set will see whatever stones they and their opponent have chosen.

Second, WMS deserves money for all his work, so some stones/boards should be purchase/KGS+ subscription only.

Third, unlockables make videogames more fun/replayable. Certain stone sets and boards should become available either with rank, or with number of wins.

Some stone sets may only be available to winners of tournaments and such, as a mark of prestige.

This setup is much more complicated than 'anyone can buy anything', but it seems interesting and not too much harder to make.



i like this concept. but to add to it.

Each player can select a "set". then both players see there opponents set.

Example.
Player [A] selects Vanilla set.
Player [B] Selects royal set (black stones are black w/ blue lines, White are silver)

During the match B is white and A is black

On the board both players see the following
White stones as silver and black stone and vanilla black.

Now, as for obtaining you could have four ways of getting it to avoid "farmer's"

You get a Certian set at 20k,15k,10k,5k,1k,1dan,3dan,5dan etc.

those arnt much of anything.

then you get some with a time of constent play,
3 months w/ a game every 3-4days
6 months
9 months etc.
12 months.
then incraments of half a year.

Then By getting kpg plus you have acess to a few sets

then winning tornaments.

i know most of this was in the above post. but i like the idea.

Author:  rubin427 [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:30 am ]
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Fun with colors would be great. However, If I was asked to give my preference between this and continued efforts on the android client, I'd pick the latter.

Author:  schultz [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:55 pm ]
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I voted to just keep it the way it is. I don't really care that much either way. All you people and your desire for funny colored stones... ;)

Author:  Sverre [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:39 am ]
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lorill wrote:
Am I the only one using untextured stones & goban ? The textured set is so ugly :|


You're definitely not the only one. It took me a couple of minutes to understand what everyone was talking about when I logged in on April 1st, since the untextured graphics were unaltered.

Author:  zinger [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:29 am ]
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I am not interested in weird colors, but I do agree that the two graphics choices are not so good. It should not be hard to add in a few board/stone options. The graphics are already out there, no need to even design new ones. And this would be 100% client side, no change to the server at all.

This has been tops on my personal KGS wishlist for a long time, I post about it now and then when it comes up, but I don't think wms is interested.

Author:  freegame [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:20 am ]
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I think they look fine now (the textured once)
but if there were more options to chose i would not mind as long as i can just leave them at there default setting.

Quote:
Second, WMS deserves money for all his work, so some stones/boards should be purchase/KGS+ subscription only.

While I agree with the first part I would really really HATE to see this implemented even though I would not see it because i'm already a KGS+ member

Author:  Mosdefgo [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:12 pm ]
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I would enjoy having more of a choice in stone colors. The pink ones were nice and I think some green ones would be good too. The one thing that I fear though, is the idea of them turning into something they could make money from. Id be happy to pay if the money goes toward improving KGS though. :)

Author:  karaklis [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:11 pm ]
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Phelan wrote:
On OGS, I feel like I can't look at a game without my custom board and stones skin. :roll:

If OGS only had the same stone/board set as KGS, I'd feel much more comfortable playing there.

Author:  ketchup [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:39 pm ]
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Having choices is always a good thing(even if I probably won't be using them)

lorill wrote:
Am I the only one using untextured stones & goban ? The textured set is so ugly :|


I actually switched to this after doing a lot of go problems repeatedly. I don't think the textured stones are ugly. I just don't think they look anywhere near real enough to justify my eyes getting used to them. I'd rather use untextured so that when I go back and forth from go problems to playing on KGS, at least some part of my reading(or lack of reading) will follow through.

Author:  EdLee [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:55 am ]
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lorill wrote:
Am I the only one using untextured stones & goban ? The textured set is so ugly :|

You are not alone. I agree with you 100%. I do the same only because the untextured set is LESS UGLY.
And I know other people who do the same.

The Android client's new wooden bowls & lids and shell & slate stones (at the bottom) look nice.
We can only hope one day WMS will add nice shell & slates stones to the standard client. :|

Author:  Phelan [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:51 am ]
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karaklis wrote:
Phelan wrote:
On OGS, I feel like I can't look at a game without my custom board and stones skin. :roll:

If OGS only had the same stone/board set as KGS, I'd feel much more comfortable playing there.


I think that it is technically possible to make a set on OGS with the KGS stone/board graphics. wms would have to give permission for it first, though.
Have you tried mixing and matching the stones and board graphics that exist? I use the Cel stones and the Beaten Wood board. :)

Author:  karaklis [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Extra stone colours

Yes, I have tried that. Currently I use these settings:

Global style: Magnolia
background: OGS Original Background
stones: Simple Stones (Big)

I'm a fan of simplicity: no texture, stones that are really black and white, and the board should have a warm color and a maximal contrast to both, black and white stones

Global style is fine: A light but not glaring background with warm colors.
background: Best color: (RGB)=(221,136,34); the original background is the best compromise, but a bit too light.
stones: These are the biggest problem. There are no really back and white stones, except for the "Simple Stones (big)", but the white stones have a really ugly thick black edge :(

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