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Author:  CarlJung [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:52 am ]
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I know SE often is wrong, but this was a new twist.

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Notice the almost complete lack of territory for either player.


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For reference, here's what they usually look like.

Author:  Li Kao [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:56 am ]
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Guess it's because it identified the two groups in the middle as a seki, and there are no points in a seki. Whole board seki :P

Author:  CarlJung [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:05 pm ]
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Perhaps it did. Seki is a pretty fantastic conclusion for the lower left corner, or the vast black area just above.

Author:  daniel_the_smith [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:07 pm ]
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Getting the status of the both white groups on the bottom wrong is a nice touch.

Author:  DrStraw [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:31 pm ]
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Not only that. Only two points which it assigned actually were points.

Author:  BaghwanB [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:48 pm ]
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Yeah, seems like if its strange idea of L&D gets extra confused it then just declares everything in the vicinity neutral. I just got that yesterday while running through some variations in a ongoing DGS game. Whoohoo! It's a tie!

Bruce "Cheater" Young

Author:  Toge [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:19 pm ]
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Li Kao wrote:
Guess it's because it identified the two groups in the middle as a seki, and there are no points in a seki. Whole board seki :P


- Also notice that definition of seki in SE is that both groups are dead :razz:

Author:  daal [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:18 am ]
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Here's another funny one:

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Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:45 pm ]
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Getting the L+2 group wrong is a nice touch.

Author:  lorill [ Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:57 am ]
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This one is quite nice too :

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Author:  freegame [ Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:24 am ]
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biggest SE swing in 1 turn (white peeping in the center and black connecting)
Black just gained well over 400 points in this exchange :lol:

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Author:  DrStraw [ Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:22 pm ]
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freegame wrote:
biggest SE swing in 1 turn (white peeping in the center and black connecting)
Black just gained well over 400 points in this exchange :lol:


Would make an interesting problem for "biggest move on the board"

Author:  Nezhmetdinov [ Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:42 pm ]
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lorill wrote:
This one is quite nice too :

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B+348 and only white territory is interesting.

Author:  lorill [ Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:56 pm ]
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Nezhmetdinov wrote:
B+348 and only white territory is interesting.

This is not a bug, but a translation.
B => Blanc => White
N => Noir => Black.

So when I see B+xx I always need to check what is the language used.

Author:  Nezhmetdinov [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:25 am ]
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lorill wrote:
Nezhmetdinov wrote:
B+348 and only white territory is interesting.

This is not a bug, but a translation.
B => Blanc => White
N => Noir => Black.

So when I see B+xx I always need to check what is the language used.


Well, that's less interesting.

Author:  Tommie [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:35 am ]
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daal wrote:
Here's another funny one:

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If Black has sente,
then bJ5 could threaten to capture White,
hence B could come out around L7,
however would then probably be captured in a huge net wM5.

How is a computer supposed to see this?
Displaying the status of both groups as unsettled, seems appropriate at first.

(After a long absence from GD/Life_in_19x19, I play around a bit with file attachments and forum editing,
while actually the absence was very good for my productivity at work :-)

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