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Author: | DrQuantum [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki ranks? |
Hi - I find it somewhat odd that my rank on the GoPanda2 client (17+ kyu) and that on the Net Social Plaza are what it seems they should be - but the Panda-Tetsuki client records me as 15+. This seems like a trivial issue... Why is it that the rating shown doesn't match between these clients? Perhaps this has been answered before on this forum but I couldn't find discussion of it anywhere. Todd |
Author: | Progenitor [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki rank |
That is interesting. I would think they would be synced up unless when you checked they happened to make an update. Are they still different now? I just recently started playing and my rank is the same on both. |
Author: | DrQuantum [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:26 am ] | ||||
Post subject: | Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki ranks? | ||||
Hi - no, they are still two stones different. Here are the screenshots to prove it. It's always been this way (well, I've only had an IGS account for a little over a year and though i signed up for the account a year ago I have only been active as a player for a few weeks). It seems to me very strange, as I've said
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Author: | leichtloeslich [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki rank |
I don't know where that client gets its information, but you know you can just connect to IGS via telnet, right? There is also this java-client which lets you use the console. Here's the output of "stats DrQuantum": stats DrQuantum wrote: Player: DrQuantum Game: go (1) Language: default Rating: 17k+ 0 Rated Games: 34 Rank: 17k+ 12 BeginnerClassWins: 0 Wins: 42 Losses: 66 Idle Time: (On server) 5s Address: panda@.us Country: USA Community: - Reg date: Mon Jan 1 00:00:00 1900 Info: I'm not a terribly experienced player - but am learning the game. Defaults (help defs): time 90, size 19, byo-yomi time 10, byo-yomi stones 25 Notice there's a "rank" and a "rating". For more info on these, do "help stats", "help rank" and "help rating". That'll answer some questions and probably raise a few others. My tip: don't worry about your IGS rating and just play. If you feel you're consistently getting very uneven matches in automatch, (i.e. either you're severely under- or overrated) your best bet short of playing through these games until your rating has adjusted, is to just create a new account (or maybe contact an IGS admin for a rating reset). |
Author: | DrQuantum [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki ranks? |
I actually don't give a hoot about what the rating is - I'm just curious about why the ratings differ. I know what the real rating is (the lower) and I'm perfectly fine with that. It just seems a trivial matter to make the main interface match what the ratings actually are. |
Author: | leichtloeslich [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki rank |
Well, since it seems to be a purely client-related issue, maybe try asking the devs for the answer. It's this thing: http://www.gentgo.be/tetsuki/ <- right? Appearently they have a forum: http://tetsuki.forum2go.nl/ You may want to ask there (as opposed to emailing the devs directly). Seems pretty weird anyway. |
Author: | DrQuantum [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki ranks? |
Weird! On Progenitor's suggestion I deleted the app and reinstalled... And now everything matches. Weird! |
Author: | lobotommy [ Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki ranks? |
It was not a bug. You just had set a "japanese ranking" on. If japanese rank is set on then rank is higher by 2-3 stones. Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1389036200.627880.jpg [ 208.24 KiB | Viewed 10371 times ] |
Author: | EdLee [ Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:36 pm ] |
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lobotommy wrote: If japanese rank is set on then rank is higher by 2-3 stones.
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Author: | oren [ Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:13 pm ] |
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EdLee wrote: lobotommy wrote: If japanese rank is set on then rank is higher by 2-3 stones. Yeah, it's one of the funny things you notice when using the Japanese client. You get shown as 2 stones stronger. |
Author: | Mef [ Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Re: |
oren wrote: EdLee wrote: lobotommy wrote: If japanese rank is set on then rank is higher by 2-3 stones. Yeah, it's one of the funny things you notice when using the Japanese client. You get shown as 2 stones stronger. I believe for a while IGS was (maybe they still are?) selling nice certificates with your rank on them. I would imagine it's better for business to have everyone's rank appear higher. |
Author: | EdLee [ Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:42 am ] |
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Mef wrote: I believe for a while IGS was (maybe they still are?) selling nice certificates with your rank on them. Exactly. Standard conflict of interest: which is more important, the student's education (and improvement), or the money ?I would imagine it's better for business to have everyone's rank appear higher. For any commercial, for-profit organization, money always wins, by definition. As a result:
This business model and the resulting rank inflation were present in Japan in the late 1950's, and perhaps even earlier, in commercial for-profit martial art groups. |
Author: | oren [ Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Difference between GoPanda2 ranks and Panda-Tetsuki rank |
I saw this page today while checking on igs ranks that can explain the differences between Japanese (on the left) and normal IGS rank (on the right). http://www.pandanet.co.jp/newkinou/0503/point.htm 2級(4k) 20900 20000 So a 2k (Japanese) is 4k rating on the stats page. It continues through the whole system. |
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