[go]$$Bcm1 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . . . . . O 6 . . | $$ | . . . . . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . 3 O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O 1 . X X 2 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . 4 . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X 5 X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I was expecting something along these lines. W is still behind, but could still win. For example, if the top becomes 15 points for W, the game should be close. If the sentre also becomes big, W could well win.
[go]$$Wcm1 Or at , at a $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 3 X . . 9 8 . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 5 4 X X X 7 . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . 1 . X X O X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 2 . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . a . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Wcm11 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . 3 X 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . 1 O X 2 O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O X X X X O . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X X O X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Wcm11 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X 7 0 3 X 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 8 O X . 1 O X 2 O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O X X X X O . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | 9 O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X X O X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Wcm11 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X 0 7 3 X 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 8 O X . 1 O X 2 O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O X X X X O . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | 9 O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X X O X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Wcm21 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | 1 . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . X . O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O X X X X O . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | O O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X X O X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This might be a problem for me. So blocking at might not be the best. How about the below?
[go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | d e 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | c 4 8 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | a 3 X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 5 X X X . . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . b X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X X O X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 1 . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . 2 . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This seems to capture him. There's still issues like with the descent at A15 being against both my middle group (due to the throw-in that occurs with white 'a', black 'b', white 'c', black 'd', white 'e') and against the corner depending on how I respond to the hane at F19, but he has a lot of cuts in his shape as well so my corner will be fine.
[go]$$Wcm11 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O X O X . . 7 8 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . 2 5 6 O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O X X X X 1 3 4 . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X X O X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . X . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
There's far too many variations to draw out, and I've surely missed reading some as well. But I don't think I've missed anything crucial, and if I haven't then white's group is dead and I've broken into his center area.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X X O X 4 X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I don't understand that last move to be honest. The only guess I can make about his intention is that he wants to play a sealing move such as M8 but wants to avoid having L6 captured.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X X O X X X X X 5 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Wcm81 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O 6 . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X X O X X X X X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'll happily be pushed from behind until he jumps ahead.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . . 7 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X X O X X X X X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Wcm81 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . 8 O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O X O X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X X O X X X X X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
That's the second time he's posted a smiley that I don't understand. I don't get how my last move could've puzzled him; it seemed really obvious to me. So I'll just respond back with a puzzled smiley of my own .
As for this move, since he can not block at L10 and must instead pull back to M10, this gains a liberty for my group. His group currently has four liberties, but he can increase it to six in gote (five in sente) with the sequence below:
[go]$$Wcm1 Captures: W 1, B 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X X O O . . . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 2 X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 6 1 X X X . . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O O O O X X X O . X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . 5 . X O O O O X O X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . 3 . X X O X X X X X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . 4 . X O X X . . . O . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X O X O O . O . . . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Since my group has at least six liberties, I'm pretty sure I can tenuki if his next move is M10. If it's not M10, then why would he play M9?
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Thank you for the game lovelove .
@Unusedname: Good question. I don't have time to answer that now, but I can reply again later with what I might have done if that occurred.
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Uberdude wrote:
Black's play seems careless, he doesn't seem to be trying very hard to find the best moves.
Interesting criticism. I don't know if I agree with it though. I just find it very hard to be authoritative on the opening, and I don't always understand it that well. Like Bill sort-of suggested, I feel more comfortable reading out and evaluating a fight than the opening.
If you were thinking about in particular, where I connected the peep instead of playing 3-3, then I agree, that move was quite slack, and I regretted overlooking 3-3 there.
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@ Magicwand: Two of the next three weeks are going to be insanely busy for me, but in three weeks I'll be willing to play you.
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in particular, where I connected the peep instead of playing 3-3, then I agree, that move was quite slack, and I regretted overlooking 3-3 there.