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 Post subject: Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #101 Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:43 pm 
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Not sure about Kirby's variation - my first instinct as white is this:

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[go]$$Wcm51
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$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X 2 . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O 3 O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #102 Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:06 am 
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Not sure about Kirby's variation - my first instinct as white is this:

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[go]$$Wcm51
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X 2 . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O 3 O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Doesn't white have to give up two stones if he plays like that? It doesn't seem like a great sacrifice...what am I missing?

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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X 5 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O 4 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O 2 O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X 1 3 . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O O O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 5 . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O 2 O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X 1 3 . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O O O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O 3 O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X 1 2 . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O O O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


On second thoughts, maybe White has not really lost anything in the above variation, as he is still connected?

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Post #103 Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:55 am 
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maybe White has not really lost anything in the above variation, as he is still connected?
Correct; you've answered your own question. :)


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Post #104 Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:54 pm 
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White has other things to worry about right now. I think that he might have to discard his central stones to save the group on the lower side.

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Post #105 Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:08 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X 3 . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #106 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:46 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 4 . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Going according to plan...

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Post #107 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:15 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X 5 . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #108 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:19 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 6 X O . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There's aji in the corner, but I think the game seems to be going at a pretty straight-forward pace.

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Post #109 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:33 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . 7 . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #110 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:35 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O 8 . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #111 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:37 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . 9 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X 0 . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O 8 . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #112 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:02 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O 2 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


You might think that I'd have to think about white playing something like this:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 2 . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X 1 3 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O 5 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . a O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But moves like 'a' and 'b' make me not worry at all.

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Post #113 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:30 am 
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[go]$$Wcm61
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 3 . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
as you can see below...i am alive and aji in the left corner in pungent!!!
if i exchange the sequence on right...there is no connection.
therefore black dragon is free game. i will hunt it down with no worry..
i have the flow...
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 X 2 X . X . O . O X X . O . X 3 . . |
$$ | . 3 1 . . O X X O . O X . . O 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . O . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #114 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:36 am 
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Kirby should worry less about his own and more about his opponent's groups. Does Black really want to let White break through the centre in exchange for connecting on the first line? What happens if White pushes into the corner gap and cuts?

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Post #115 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:40 am 
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[go]$$Wcm61
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . 4 O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, there you go. He lived. But I feel like there's still a good game to be played.

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Post #116 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:45 am 
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[go]$$Wcm61
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O 5 X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

kirby gave me a life and didnt get much out of it.
i am pretty sure that he could have threathened my life and
i would have been in big trouble if he played it right.

one move i was afraid my opponent might play: see below.
i will let observers do the reading on this..

fact of the matter is...i shouldnt live that easy on this shape.
but kirby seems satisfied on little point gain.
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X . . 1 . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #117 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:51 am 
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[go]$$Wcm61
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , 6 . . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Let's see if we can put this little guy into action...

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Post #118 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:07 am 
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[go]$$Wcm61
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , X 7 . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i think kirby is trying to capture my middle stone with ladder. :)
if that is his intension then there is only one move for me...

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Post #119 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:19 am 
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[go]$$Wcm61
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . 8 X O . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #120 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:23 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . , . . X . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O 9 . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . X X X O O X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . X O O . O X . O O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . X X O . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . O . O X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O . O X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
he is daring me and raising the ante. i have to call his bluff..

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