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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #101 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:21 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 5 6 . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . 3 2 . X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #102 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:34 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 5 6 . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . 3 2 . X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
trick move

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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #103 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:44 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 8 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 5 6 . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . 3 2 . X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have never seen this move by a dan player before, even in hamete moves on this joseki. Maybe I'm in for a nasty surprise, but as I can't see it, I'm not backing down.
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #104 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:51 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 8 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 5 6 . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . 3 2 9 X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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i remember when i was around 1d level... playing for money in kiwon.
High dans play such tricks on me and drove me crazy. i didnt know what i did wrong and had no answer.
I memorized all joseki variation but they didnt have answer for that move.

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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #105 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:03 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #106 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:04 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . 2 O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X B 1 . . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I figured he'd cut if it was a trick, and my reading said cut back. We'll soon see :-?
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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #107 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:58 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

no cut

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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #108 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:13 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X . 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No cut? Why push and not cut? Didn't he just take gote endgame? I'm puzzled. Now I'm aiming at those cuts again.

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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . 1 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X . . 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This was what I was expecting. Would White want to continue like this:


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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 5 6 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . 1 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X 3 X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X 4 . 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It seems like a strange exchange to make and lose sente on to me at this stage in the game.
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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #109 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:33 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X . 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #110 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:48 am 
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Did you consider pincering instead of :b72:? If so, could you explain why you chose an attachment instead?
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Post #111 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:48 am 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X 4 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yes, I did, I'll respond shortly :)
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 Post subject: Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Post #112 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:26 am 
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My problem with a pincer is that I couldn't see how to avoid a large corner loss. White can simply jump out and I have to look after too much:

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[go]$$Wcm71 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . 2 . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . a O a . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a a . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . b . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . c . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I really want to use the aji at "a" to settle my group (although I'm quietly hoping I'm going to be allowed to play "b", threatening to connect underneath at "c" to the lower group for some points and a reasonable reduction), and as soon as I play a pincer, we have a large fight in the corner. Once I settle, White will be thicker, and the points gained on the top side isn't going to be that large, particularly as it will be hard to get thick enough that White can't find a useful invasion point. I'm hoping that after this sequence I get to play one of the following:

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[go]$$Wcm81 Will exchange "a" for "b" first
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . 5 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . b O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . a X X 4 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . 9 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 6 7 . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 8 X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm81 I might need a second eye though!
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . 0 . 8 9 O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X 4 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . 7 . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #113 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:01 am 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X 4 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . 3 . 5 . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

getting better on every move...

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Post #114 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:49 am 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X 4 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . 3 . 5 . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Running fight time
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Post #115 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:09 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X 4 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . 3 . 5 . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 7 . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #116 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:25 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X 4 2 . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . 3 . 5 . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 7 . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 8 X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Only move, do or die, into the valley and all the shizzle. Time to show whether I've really got the skills to pull something like this off against him.

Nice to have a fight on his expertise rather than the last game which was mostly in the areas I feel comfortable in.
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Post #117 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:41 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . 0 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . 5 3 1 O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . 4 2 X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #118 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:21 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . 0 X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #119 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:28 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #120 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:17 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . 2 . O O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . X . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . X X X X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I die on the right and he dies on the top. A very weird exchange.
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