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Offline Numsgil
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #121 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:36 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm83 Move 83
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Continuing read out variation. Goal is to gain two eyes on the side for my black group, or to run towards the bottom.

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #122 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:38 pm 
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Move 84
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[go]$$Wcm84 Move 84
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

Dead, and in the biggest way possible :) (see previous move for killing line). Well, that's another 10 points in the bank I think. I doubt I'll get sente too sadly, so Black could get some good compensation still with a big move in the top right.
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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #123 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:38 pm 
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Numsgil's second "living" diagram isn't. I guess he'll find out.

edit: haha, they both moved in the time it took me to write that XP

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Offline Numsgil
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #124 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:17 pm 
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Move 85
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[go]$$Bcm85 Move 85
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations
Continuing read out variation.

Black is now alive (obviously white doesn't necessarily play this sequence out).

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Move 85
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[go]$$Bcm85 Move 85
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 2 O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 3 X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X 6 . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 5 X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Downside is that now white has a ponuki in sente. But better this than questionable life for black. Though white can now start menacing the corner with his thickness.

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[go]$$Bcm85 Move 85
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 3 X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 2 X O O . 4 . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #125 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:20 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm86 Move 86
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

So, that's 10 more points in 10 more moves. Now Black has sente as the group is unconditionally dead ... what's he going to do with it?
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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #126 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:24 pm 
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Watching this remind me just how much of strength is reading. It's everything really. And I'm reminded of how much of a difference there is in reading skill between 8 kyu and someone of my strength, just four stones stronger.

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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #127 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:35 pm 
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To be fair, this is a not-reading problem, not a reading problem, if that makes sense. If you had presented the side to Numsgil as a white to kill problem, he'd find it in a few seconds, I bet. The cached status of that position just got stuck in his head wrong. I'm sure he won't repeat that mistake soon, though...

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Offline Numsgil
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Post #128 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:01 pm 
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Move 87
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[go]$$Bcm87 Move 87
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations
Arg, even when sequences go according to plan I die. :-?

Black is dead, because 'a' and 'b' below are miai.

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Move 86
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[go]$$Wcm86 Move 86
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | a X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . b X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Scoring and Counting
Time to count and see how badly I'm losing.

Upper left is worth 70 points for white, give or take a few points. All those black stones are dead. At the bottom, white has maybe 8 points. So white has 78 points right now.

For black: top right is worth 10 points. Bottom right is worth 10 points. Bottom left is worth 10 points. So that's 30 points of territory for black. Plus 70 komi. So that's 100 points for black.

So I'm still winning by like 22 points, but there's a lot of territory to settle still. White has a lot of thickness towards the center. He could easily form a large moyo.

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Move 87
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[go]$$Bcm87 Move 87
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O w . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . b b |
$$ | . X X O . O w . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . w . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | w O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . b |
$$ | b b . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . b . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . b . . . . . . w . w . . b . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts
So the goal now is just to keep my slim lead and find the largest point on the board.

What are the large points on the board?

'a' aims to separate the two white groups. But it leads to more fighting and I haven't had much luck with that yet.

'b' aims to connect up the two black stones with the stones in the corner to create a large scale enclosure of the top.

'c' is a forcing sequence. White has to capture the two laddered black stones. If he doesn't they can escape (local capture with a net doesn't work. Those stones need to be captured outright if the ladder is broken).

'd' threatens white's base and builds up some side territory.

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Move 87
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[go]$$Bcm87 Move 87
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . b . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O a . . . . . . . . . . d . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . c . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


because 'c' is forcing, I chose to do that one first.


Tactics and Variations
So, what happens if white answers my ladder breaker forcing move instead of capturing the stones?

Here, white loses so much he might as well resign.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O 7 O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O 1 2 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O 6 5 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Same here.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O 1 2 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O 6 5 3 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O 9 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I could try to save that aji up some more, but realistically this is the point in the game where hard and solid profit trumps saved threats.

After the forcing sequence, I'll play 'd' from my strategy section. If white doesn't answer, I can jump out from the corner and ruin white's base and white will be in trouble on a large scale.


edit: actually making the move I said I would :P

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Offline explo
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #129 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:21 pm 
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Was move 87 actually played? I cannot find it on the board.
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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #130 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:34 pm 
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Thanks Explo. I knew I was forgetting something. :P

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Post #131 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:29 am 
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[go]$$Wcm88 Move 88 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O 1 . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

Yeah, he got the big point I wanted. That's ok, I can't have everything, but I'm guessing he intends on launching an attack on the right hand side group. It's not that easy to attack , and I can simply atari the stone that I cut off at the end of the lower right sequence to squeeze out, but it will be interesting to see how he forms his plan now.

Here's where the game really starts :D
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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #132 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:55 am 
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[go]$$Bcm89 Move 89 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Continuing what I said I'd do.

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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #133 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:54 am 
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Move 90 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm90 Move 90 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

That's really annoying, Black's taken a couple of really good points. I don't want to get sealed in, but I do want to attack. I think N6 is definitely Black's sente, and if I run here, Black can take that point before carrying on pushing me upwards, creating lots of thickness himself to counteract all mine - that would be more than annoying. As a result, I consider N6 big and urgent, and will play it now. If Black extends, I'll push again, then I'll tenuki, I have no problem with eyes at the bottom, so I should be able to settle both sides without problem. This could get interesting in the top right, as I feel I'm going to have to reduce very strongly.
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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #134 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:51 am 
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[go]$$Bcm91 Move 91 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations
This is meant to be a separating attack, so black can aim at my two center stones later. I think.

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[go]$$Wcm90 Move 90 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 . 3 1 . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 2 X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . 6 . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Move 90 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm90 Move 90 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . 0 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . 7 8 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 6 3 1 9 O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 2 X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Move 90 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm90 Move 90 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 3 1 . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 4 2 X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline HKA
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #135 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:12 am 
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So this is my first visit to this game - I was quite addicted to the zinger-magicwand match. Thank god I read a post regarding the 70 pt komi before I posted.

Often, I will find a small group when I am black and call the 5-7 point group "komi" and ignore it for counting purposes for the rest of the game.

It amuses me that topazg can do a similar thing with the upper left (sorry Numsgil).

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Post #136 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:55 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm92 Move 92 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

This game's going to get a whole load more fun in 15 moves or so. I'm not entirely sure why Black extended. The aji of bN7 has gone down quite a bit because he no longer has N6 as a double atari (so I can block at O7 rather than needing N6 myself). I predict a big fight between lots of groups, and that's just what White wants right now because of the thickness in the top left. I want a big fight, so let's get rumbling.


Tactics and Variations

So, if he's extended once, he's probably going to do it again. Obviously that's fine by me - I'm not pushing just because I assume he'll extend either - the purpose of the atari was a get out of jail free card, so I can't let him bend around here or it was pointless. So, expectations?

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[go]$$Wcm92 Move 92 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . a b X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 1 O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . 3 . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Certainly this, and then I want "a" if Black can't effectively get away with "b" (and I have a feeling he can't ...). If not, "b" is good enough, just keep everything separated and look for big kills. One more and I'm probably caught up.
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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #137 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:08 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm93 Move 93 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Local capture doesn't work (that I can see) so this should be safe. See previous posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #138 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . 1 . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

Let's rumble - nothing more to say :D

EDIT: Actually, something more. I would rather push on the top and split in a big way with N10 or O10, but this is the safest way of securing two eyes at the bottom without having to worry about being sealed in in gote or something...
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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #139 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 2:01 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm95 Move 95 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . 1 . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . O . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations
If I play like this, there's a ladder. Even with my black stone at F9, the ladder is not broken.

Go Diagram
Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . 1 2 O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . 5 4 3 O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Go Diagram
Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . W . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X B W . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . W B B W . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . W B B W . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . W B B O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . O X O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This way is a family feud. I hurt my corner enclosure by pushing white towards it as he builds strength.

Go Diagram
Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 2 X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . 5 3 1 . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If I do nothing, white can capture in a net.

Go Diagram
Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 3 . O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . 1 . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This way white ends up squeezed out into the center, and I have two weak groups he can attack for fun and profit.

Go Diagram
Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . 7 . 4 . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . 6 5 3 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 8 . 2 O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . 1 . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This seems okay. Lots of forcing moves white can pull still, though (the trumpet connection isn't great in this case because of all the peeps white has). But black's group, once clumped, is still no weaker than white's group on the side.
Go Diagram
Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . 0 . 8 . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . 2 7 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 3 O O 9 O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . 5 1 . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is a weirder variation. Still okay for black I think.

Go Diagram
Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . 7 0 . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . 2 8 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 3 O O 9 O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . 5 1 . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
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Go Diagram
Move 96 - W: 0, B: 2
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[go]$$Wcm96 Move 96 - W: 0, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . O . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

Upping the stakes ... having secured the lower group, I want big split heavy groups to fight against ;)
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