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Offline Marcus
 Post subject: Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Post #121 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X 1 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I really hope I'm not self-destructing here. I think this is an interesting fight. :) Also, I changed the prisoner count to something a little clearer. We can count the number of stones taken off the board (100 = 00 .. when a stone is taken off the board, we can change the number to reflect a stone off the board. :)

The more I look at this fight, the more I feel like I need to make it more complicated. Will we get an interesting ko here later? Or maybe now?

An amusing thought:

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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X 1 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O 3 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X 7 X O C O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Last edited by Marcus on Fri May 06, 2011 6:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Offline EdLee
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Hidden until lower right corner completely settled,
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[go]$$B
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X 1 . . O . . |
$$. . . O X O 2 . . . . |
$$. X X X O X O X . . . |
$$. . X O O . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]
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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Post #123 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:36 pm 
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Hooray! A go problem!

I've got a few choices here, and I've got to read the best one.

Choice 1:
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[go]$$Wcm1 Hmmm...
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O 2 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O 4 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O 1 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Choice 2:
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[go]$$Wcm1 ?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O 1 . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Choice 3:
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[go]$$Wcm1 Can I survive this?? \nWhat about with 6 at 'a'?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X 4 3 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O 1 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . 5 6 a . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Choice 4:
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[go]$$Wcm1 Hmmm...
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . 2 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Choice 4:
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[go]$$Wcm1 Hmmm...
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . 3 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


With so many options, I'll just have to think about this some more...

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 Post subject: Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Post #124 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:54 am 
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Currently considering this set of variations:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X 1 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X 7 X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
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Post #125 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:17 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I could not read a good result with the other moves I selected. I wonder if others disagree...

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Post #126 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:54 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: :black: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X C 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No question. Capture in sente? I think Kirby just made an error ... Now, other than the immediate capture, what can I gain here?
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Post #127 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:03 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: :black: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . 4 O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Easy choice.

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Post #128 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:10 pm 
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That worked out well for me ... now, what do I do here?

I think I'll try to estimate the score ... soon, anyways. No time to do so right now.
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Post #129 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:42 pm 
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The suspense is killing me.

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[go]$$B
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X . . O . . |
$$. . . O X . X . 1 . . |
$$. X X X O X O X . . . |
$$. . X O O . O O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$----------------------[/go]
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EdLee wrote:
Hidden until lower right corner completely settled,
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[go]$$B
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X 1 . . O . . |
$$. . . O X O 2 . . . . |
$$. X X X O X O X . . . |
$$. . X O O . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]

my first instinct was the same. i guess this is a success for white (other responses to 1 seems great for black):

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[go]$$B
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X . . O . . |
$$. . . O X O W 2 . . . |
$$. X X X O X O X 6 . . |
$$. . X O O 3 1 4 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . 5 7 . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]

other possibility for 1 is Kirby's choice 3 from his post #123, but it ends bad for black

but Kirby's actual move looks also ok, despite sacrificing the stone (which goes against my intuition)

PS: sorry for posting late and i couldn't cover all possible variations but i decided it is better to post something than nothing

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Post #132 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 4:19 pm 
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Could you show some of these "bad results"?
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Post #133 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:14 pm 
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Laman,
Laman wrote:
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[go]$$B
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X . . O . . |
$$. . . O X O W 2 . . . |
$$. X X X O X O X 6 . . |
$$. . X O O 3 1 4 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . 5 7 . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]
How about:
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[go]$$B
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X . . O . . |
$$. . . O X O O . . . . |
$$. X X X O B O X . . . |
$$. . X O O 2 1 . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]
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Post #134 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:41 pm 
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Could you show some of these "bad results"?


@Aphelion:
I am assuming you are talking about why I selected the sequence I did out of the choices I laid out earlier. If you mean something else, let me know.

If this is what you do mean, I will explain my rationale after the game has progressed a little bit further.

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Post #135 Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:36 am 
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EdLee wrote:
How about:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X . . O . . |
$$. . . O X O O . . . . |
$$. X X X O B O X . . . |
$$. . X O O 2 1 . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]

my reading is not as sharp as it used to be and yesterday i was posting half asleep, so i was under impression that b Q5 kills white...

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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 135-1
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$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X a . O . . |
$$. . . O X O O 1 . . . |
$$. X X X O b O X . . . |
$$. . X O O W X 3 . . . |
$$. 7 6 . . . 2 4 5 . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 135-2
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X 5 . O . . |
$$. . . O X O O 1 . . . |
$$. X X X O 6 O X . . . |
$$. . X O O W X 2 . . . |
$$. . . . . 7 3 4 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]

and it would really do, if a-b exchange was sente for black. but unfortunately for me, white can let his 3 stones go and make my diagram 135-1 fail by the cut w R3 (to be precise: w Q6, b 'a', w R3)

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Laman,
Laman wrote:
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[go]$$B Diagram 135-1
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X . . O . . |
$$. . . O X O O 1 . . . |
$$. X X X O . O X . . . |
$$. . X O O O X 3 . . . |
$$. 7 6 . . . 2 4 5 . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]
How about:
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[go]$$B
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X . 5 O . . |
$$. . . O X O O 1 . . . |
$$. X X X O . O X . . . |
$$. . X O O O X 3 . . . |
$$. . . . . . 2 4 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------[/go]
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Post #137 Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 4:39 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: :black: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, let's try this as punishment. I've given up all 4 corners, it seems. However, the "strong" White side on the right is severely damaged in the process.

I really need to learn how to estimate score. I know, I know ... I should practice here ... I'll give it a try later, I guess. :D
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Post #138 Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 5:22 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Another easy choice.

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Hidden until lower right corner completely settled,
Kirby wrote:
Another easy choice.
Locally, :w1: seems better -- for one thing, it threatens to link up with (a):
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[go]$$W
$$. , . . . . . , . . . |
$$. . . . . . . O . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . X . . . . |
$$. . . . X X . . O . . |
$$. . . O X . X . X a . |
$$. X X X O X O X . . . |
$$. . X O O . O O 1 . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$------------------------[/go]
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Post #140 Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 2:00 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X O , . . X . X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X 7 X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X X O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X O O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


OK ... where to next, Kirby? I don't think he'll protect here. Instead, he'll probably tenuki. My money's on F5 ... that's a big point to take right now, I think.
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