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Post #121 Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:26 am 
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[go]$$Wcm56 B has captured 1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 6 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . 3 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 1 2 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i wanted to push once more... before i sumbit i realized that it might be aji-keshi. i will save my aji for later.
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invasion at 'a' looked good if i save my aji... in order for me to play that invasion i must take care of my group first.
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[go]$$Wcm56 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , a . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 6 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . 3 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 1 2 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #122 Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:27 am 
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[go]$$Wcm56 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 6 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . 3 . 8 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 1 2 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Write up to follow.

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Post #123 Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:11 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 6 9 X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . 3 . 8 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 1 2 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ok..now i have to play here to leave the aji....

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Post #124 Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:33 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm56 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 0 . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 6 9 X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . 3 . 8 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 1 2 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I expected MW to reply to 65 directly.

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Expected
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[go]$$Wc Expected
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X c . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O a . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X b X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . O 3 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O 1 X 2 4 6 , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The line shown is the plainest for B. However, it feels playable for me. a very rough count is:

B
Upper side 0, but lots of potential
RHS and lower right corner, 0 but medium sized-potential
Bottom left:Maybe 10 points.
LHS: Maybe 5 points.

W:
Upper left: 15 points
Middle: 0 points
Lower left 5-10 points.

So including komi, B is 15 poitns behind. W has a weak group and B has lots of moyos. So I feel B leads. However, note that if W settles his weak group the a-b-c sequence is big and may destroy the count shown.

MW's move is presumably an attempt to activate some aji. However, it destroys the a-b-c above so may lose points for W.

It's unclear to me what he'll do next. Maybe he'll again try to stengthen the centre and then try to cut off my center stones?


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Now what?
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[go]$$Wc Now what?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . 0 . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 2 9 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X 1 X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . O 5 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O 3 X 4 6 8 , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So maybe this is MW's plan. He now needs somthing good in the centre. However, I think I can give up 2 stones with adequate compensation.


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[go]$$Wc I think it's OK for me
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . 2 1 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X O 3 4 6 8 0 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X 5 7 9 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O O X X X X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If this happens, the top side may well become very big for me. I also have other options:


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Also playable
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[go]$$Wc Also playable
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . X 4 6 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . 3 1 5 7 9 . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . 2 . 8 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . 0 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O O X X X X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This may be better, since I may be able to keep the big W group weak.Another plan for W is to hane initially:

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[go]$$Wc Now what?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . b . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 2 a 9 . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X 1 X . 0 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . O 5 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O 3 X 4 6 8 , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The one point jump response looks good to me here. If W a, B b.

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Post #125 Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:12 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #126 Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:20 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm66 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It's the most active move in the centre.

MW has a choice: To cut or not to cut. Additionally, he could try to cut through in my top-centre before cutting.

If he doens't cut, something like this may happen:

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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . 9 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 3 5 7 8 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 4 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this good for B. I have bad aji, but it's hard to exploit it. I may get quite a lot of territoty, although I may need to drop the odd stone to manage things.

If MW cuts immediately:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X a b . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 5 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This looks playable for B.

So mayble MW will try a or b in the diagram above.

These are no dissimilar ot the line I gave last time - I think I can patch things together.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 5 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


and unusually for a trigger, I haven't deided on my next move yet!

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I think your numbering is wrong, shouldn't it be:

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 5 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 5 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


AS planned. I also considered a and b below


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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X a . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X b . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The reason for my pause was this move for W:



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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . 3 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Lines like this are really hard to read out. Fortunately, I can side-step the issue:



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[go]$$Bc One line
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . 7 . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 6 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X 5 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O a O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This makes a nearly sente for W, which is a bit annoying, But W has two groups to look after. I am thin, but just about connected everywhere.

W may continue at 6 above. If he does, my initial plan is to patch some bits up with 7 nd keep the pressure on the big group. He may need to play the ko to survive, which seems likely to be good for B.

SO W will look for alternatives to this. One possibility is kosumi



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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Again, this line is difficult. I may get a ko or seki in the semeai.

Due to difficulty in readin this out, I may chicken out:



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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . 7 . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 6 . . 8 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 1 . a . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X 3 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If I play 7 here, then 8 seems effective. (But I may be able to hack my way out, for example at a. But W may be able tolive big on the right then use the ko in the centre if I do this. Again, more reading is needed!)

So maybe this beckons:



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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 4 . . 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I am very thin on the upper side, so W will live quite easily with that group. But I should be able to hold things together. If I kepp sente, my attack on the right is quite severe.

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$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 5 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . 4 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 5 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . 4 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . 8 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 5 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . 4 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . 8 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . 1 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X 3 5 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . 4 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . 0 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . 8 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The natural move. W's 3 stone only have 3 liberties, so are under a relatively sever attack. MW try to attack the upper side and treat the stones lightly. If so, I have a rnage of choice. The diagram shows one.

giving up the 3 stones feels painful for W.
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[go]$$W Next?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . 9 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . 7 0 . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O 3 4 8 . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O 2 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . X 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


However, it's not easy to save them. Something like shown could be a disaster for W.


So W may be force to attack the lower side rather than save the 3 stones.

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[go]$$W Attack!
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But then I can attack the group in the centre, temporarily abondonding the lower side.

This all points to W 1 in these diagrams being an overplay. Another line for MW is:

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[go]$$W Another line
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . X 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I get quite a severe attack here.

So maybe this is the best reply for W:

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[go]$$W Another line
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . a . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If that happens, I'll attack the three stones and aim to get sente to play at a.

I think 74 was an overplay.

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Post #135 Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:51 am 
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i am forced to continue this fight... i think ko fight will be only possible solution i see for white. it will be intresting what ko threat black will present

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Post #136 Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:03 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . X 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As planned. I like fights.

Weeeeee!

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Post #137 Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:58 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . X 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
only move

edit:
strongest move my opponent can make is as below...
if he plays that move..i dont have any chance of winning.

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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . 4 X . . . . X 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #138 Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:34 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X . . . . X 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As planned. I connect stuff up, make my moyo bigger, and attack W in a very meaningful way. A multi purpose move.

Maybe W needs to fight the ko next. W can try somehting like Q6 first, aiming at my central group. But it's risky for W and I may be able to squash the ko in reply.

The fighting following my move seems quite favourable to me, but I may have overlooked something.

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Post #139 Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:09 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 8 O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 6 7 X . . 9 . X 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X 5 X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #140 Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:14 pm 
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@MW:
A while back you ignored black's cap at j13 and defended the top left 3-3 point as you thought he should have invaded there instead. You now seem to recognise you are in trouble, so do you still think that previous judgement was correct and you made a mistake afterwards, or given how this fighting has gone would you revise that previous judgement?

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i think he should have initiated 3-3 invasion with his last move.
i guess black having funny opening in the beginning must be giving him uneasy feeling.
luckly i feel that i am ahead in points and not bad in thickness.
i think below diag is better for black than what he played.
his last move seems out of place exposing weakness.
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[go]$$Bcm41 B has captured 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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