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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #141 Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:57 am 
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X 8 X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O , . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yep, and the sequence gives you sente.

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Offline yithril
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #142 Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:23 am 
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . 9 . . . . . . . . X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O , . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Why thank you good sir.

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #143 Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:49 am 
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . . 0 . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O , . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



This will be tough, but I think I need to pull something off to not lose. My opponent's last move sealed off more than I like. I solidified at Q8 before so that my opponent's hane at O7 would not be sente. That lets me at least try something here, threatening the groups above and below.

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Offline yithril
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #144 Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . . X 1 . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O , . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #145 Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:21 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . 2 X O 3 O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O , . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Feel free to accept the trigger or not. Here goes... well, maybe nothing. =)

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Offline yithril
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Post #146 Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:43 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . 5 X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O , . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Wow. Let's fight this out :)

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #147 Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:43 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O 6 . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ouch. Somehow I missed that clean, easy answer. If I can't get a coup soon I think I'll need to resign. Or at least count again, but I don't think I gained anything since last time.

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Offline yithril
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Post #148 Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:51 pm 
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You, good sir, are all up in my grill.

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Post #149 Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:33 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . 7 . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O 8 . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . 4 5 . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X 6 O X 7 . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . 2 O X . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . 3 1 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not wild about the ko when losing means my center moyo goes "poof!"

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . 1 . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X 2 . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . 5 O X . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . 4 3 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . 1 . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X 3 5 . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 4 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . 2 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something like this is what I'm thinking. I can always take a haircut at the bottom to maintain my center.

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Post #150 Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:02 pm 
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One of Yithril's proposed sequences:
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . 1 . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X 3 5 . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 4 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . 2 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Looks good, but...
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O a . . 4 b . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O O 3 2 O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
a and b are miai?

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . 4 5 X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O 2 3 . X 1 . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O O O X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O 1 . . X 2 . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O O O X O 3 4 . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As far as I can tell, white is forced to sacrifice two stones, but it still doesn't work.

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . 1 . . 9 7 . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X 3 5 8 6 O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 4 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . 2 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #151 Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:07 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . 4 5 X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O 2 3 . X 1 . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O O O X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . 4 5 X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O 2 3 . X 1 . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O C O O O X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #153 Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:48 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 8 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

A trigger, if you're interested. Ya'all's hide tags are making me really curious.

Sorry I haven't posted as much in my hide tags lately.
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[go]$$Bc Some options A
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X O X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . 7 . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O C 2 5 6 . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 3 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . 1 4 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bc Some options B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X O X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O C 2 4 . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 3 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . 6 1 5 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . 7 . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bc Some options C
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X O X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . 7 6 8 . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . 5 4 3 O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . 0 O X 1 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . 9 2 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bc Some options D
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X O X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . 9 X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O 0 8 6 7 . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . 5 4 3 O . a . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 1 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . 2 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bc Reverts to B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X O X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O C 6 2 . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . 4 O X 1 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . 3 5 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bc Some options E
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X O X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . 2 . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 1 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm121 I also considered this, but
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 8 9 X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . . . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X . O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . 0 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm I also considered this, but
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . 7 . 5 6 . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X 0 . 4 3 O . 1 2 O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X 8 O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . 9 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wc I also considered this, but darn.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . X . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O C O X O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X O O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . 3 2 X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . 5 4 1 . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Okay, I've been reading this for hours. I know the diagrams I posted above don't all make sense, but they were me typing my thoughts, then either discarding the ideas before I explained them, or finding they revert to B. So I expect that, whether I start here or with the atari, white will revert to diagram B. I do have some nice aji with M10 and Q5, though I don't think I get more than this capture (B). The capture MAY be sente, though, or may make a monkey jump very sente. Q5 threatens to kill the corner, by the way. And if I get Q5 in sente (easy), the M5 cut is sente.


Looking at this now, this feels more reasonable than I had thought previously. I am glad of that. :roll:

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Post #154 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:53 am 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X C X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . 9 . . O . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline yithril
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Post #156 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:32 pm 
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Hmm, I may come to regret this move...

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Post #157 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:52 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . 5 . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . O 4 3 O . 1 2 O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Take as much or as little trigger as you'd like. This is a really interesting fight, I'd hate it if you backed down too early. =D

Okay, so. The first peep threatens to kill the corner. Next, I threaten to connect to my outside in sente (by capturing one stone, which would again threaten the corner). Next I will connect at K5. If he tries to drive me upwards, I get more liberties, and then I get to cut at J3 to live. So I anticipate that he will drive me downwards, forcing me to live, but requiring himself to fix his cut points in gote. This would turn out to be about the same as the diagram I predicted last move, but it's a more interesting sequence to get there. Also, it ends in the sente I need so badly. I think I'm just too far behind, but it's a fun fight.

...if I DO decide I'm way too far behind, I can try to get liberties in the middle, and jump into his corner. But it seems like I'd need a LOT of liberties for it... hmmm. I'll consider it, but don't need to decide that quite yet.

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Post #158 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:58 am 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . X 6 . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X . O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #159 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:24 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X 7 O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #160 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:39 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O 8 0 . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . 9 O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Get out of my house! :P

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