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 Post subject: Re: 154. illuck vs. Celebrir
Post #141 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:33 am 
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Post #142 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm111 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 2 X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sadly this seems to be sente (I don't see a move where I gain more than I would lose if I tennuki)

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Post #143 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:25 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm111 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . 4 3 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Feel free to reject trigger.

More endgame.

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Post #144 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:57 am 
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Nothing to argue against the trigger :ugeek:

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[go]$$Bcm111 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O 6 O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My last move is the key to make this possible:
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[go]$$Bcm1 illluck vs. Celebrir - Dia.1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . 1 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X 3 . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X 5 2 4 O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Before I had to worry about my shape

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Post #145 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:43 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm111 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O 6 O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | 9 X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | 7 O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | 8 . . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I thought about reserving this sente for ko threats, but I did a quick read of what I'm planning in centre and don't think a ko is likely.

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Post #146 Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:00 am 
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[go]$$Bcm111 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O 0 . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not much options here. I don't think it is good to take bad shape on the C-line for 1 point here.

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Post #147 Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:24 am 
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[go]$$Bcm121 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . 2 1 3 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #148 Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:18 am 
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[go]$$Bcm121 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . 4 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just as planned several moves before

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Post #149 Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:21 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm121 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . 4 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It seems like white has some aji here that makes this look interesting.

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Post #150 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:24 am 
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You forgot to edit numbers ;)

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[go]$$Bcm121 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . 6 O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This isn't tha dangerous as it could have been I guess:
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[go]$$Bcm1 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . 4 . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . 3 O X 2 . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . 5 . 1 O O . . . . W O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I expect something like this. I'm happy I played :wc: here and hope I don't miss something...

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Post #151 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:07 am 
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Right, opps :p

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[go]$$Bcm121 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . . . 7 O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #152 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:57 am 
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[go]$$Bcm121 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . 0 . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . 9 O X 8 . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . . . X O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Going on as explained before, but I can't know how or whether he'll defend the cut.

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Post #153 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:09 am 
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[go]$$Bcm131 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . 1 . X O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #154 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:09 am 
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[go]$$Bcm131 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . 2 . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . X . X O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now it is my turn to take big endgames. I explained this one before.

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Post #155 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:26 am 
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[go]$$Bcm131 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . O . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . 3 . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . X . X O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #156 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:44 am 
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[go]$$Bcm131 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X . O 4 O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . X . X O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Somehow I hoped he would make a mistake here :roll:

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[go]$$Bcm1 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . 2 X 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X 1 O . O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . . 6 . . . . . . O . W O X . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . 5 X O O X O X . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . X . X O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Because of :wc: :w2: is sente now and this will be my move if he responds to this one.

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Post #157 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:59 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X a O O O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X 5 O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . X . X O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If you respond, I'll connect at a.

Might as well get the sente first.

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Post #158 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:09 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . 8 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O O O . X . O . X . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . O X 7 O O O O . X . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O X X O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X O X 6 . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . O . O . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | X O O . . X . X O O . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X X O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Cutting at :b7: seems big, but he would get/destroy points in sente at the center and playing :w8: afterwards. Getting something at the center and :w8: seems far bigger than :b7:

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Post #159 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:55 am 
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Celebrir wrote:
Cutting at :b7: seems big, but he would get/destroy points in sente at the center and playing :w8: afterwards. Getting something at the center and :w8: seems far bigger than :b7:


Really? I make :b7: 9.5 points gote, I'm not sure :w8: is 9.5 points? It must be at least close, but I can't see enough points for "far bigger"

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Post #160 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:39 am 
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@Celebrir:

Celebrir wrote:
Cutting at :b7: seems big, but he would get/destroy points in sente at the center and playing :w8: afterwards. Getting something at the center and :w8: seems far bigger than :b7:


Really? I make :b7: 9.5 points gote, I'm not sure :w8: is 9.5 points? It must be at least close, but I can't see enough points for "far bigger"


Don't forget that he takes my stone at L10 first. Beside :w38: is/should be sente which makes it even bigger

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