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 Post subject: Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove
Post #141 Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:27 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 8 . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O 4 O 7 9 . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O 3 . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X 1 5 X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 2 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . 6 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
:shock: Does drmwc really plan to fight this ko?
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[go]$$cm127
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O 3 . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X 1 4 X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 2 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |[/go]

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[go]$$cm127
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O 5 O 7 . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X C X 6 . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |[/go]

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Post #142 Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:57 pm 
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[go]$$cm121
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X 9 X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 8 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #143 Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:17 pm 
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[go]$$cm101
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . . . O . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X 9 7 8 . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . 0 . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
lovelove wrote:
I think black made a little endgame mistake.
What do you think drmwc should have played instead of :b7: and :b9:?

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Post #144 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:53 am 
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[go]$$cm121
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #145 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:16 am 
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[go]$$cm101
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . . . O . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X 9 7 8 . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . 0 . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
lovelove wrote:
I think black made a little endgame mistake.
What do you think drmwc should have played instead of :b7: and :b9:?

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Post #146 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:08 am 
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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . . 1 O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Probe - takes some W terriorty away. By my reading, tenuki by W (although possible) goes badly. One non-tenuki possibility:

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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X b . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O 4 O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . 3 O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . 2 1 O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . 5 X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . 6 O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X a O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


and I have taken some territoty in sente. Possible moves for me after this are a, b, c and the sequence shown.

Here's another possibility for w:


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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . 6 . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . 2 O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X 5 3 1 O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . 4 O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . 7 . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If W omits a move around 36, B takes a lot of territory in sente by playing there. Then 37 looks quite strong.

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Post #147 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:28 am 
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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . 2 O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . . X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Hmm..

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Post #148 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:08 am 
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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . 3 X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As planned.

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Post #149 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:41 am 
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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . 4 O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X 5 X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O 6 X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #152 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:35 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X 9 . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . 7 8 X O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I expect a reply as below.

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[go]$$cm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . 4 . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X 3 . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . 1 2 . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . a O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . 5 X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . 6 O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Then I beelive the sequence shon is the biggest thing on the board. W can contemplate resisting, with 6 at a, for example. But then I gain yose on the edge.

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Post #153 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:36 am 
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[go]$$cm131 Prisoners: Black 3 White 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . 0 . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #154 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:35 am 
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[go]$$cm141
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . 1 X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As planned.

Suppose this sequence follows:
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[go]$$cm141
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . a . O X X X X X X X 4 . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . 6 3 7 . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , 8 1 X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . 2 O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X 9 O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Then a rough count is:
W around 20 points lop left (note I have a for later, but W may get points in top right corner).
Around 30 points centre and lower side side
10 points bottom left.

B 50 points RHS.
5 points top.
13 point left hand side.

B total: 68. W total: 66.5. So it looks like a very small lead for me, but it's exceedingly close and could go either way.

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Post #155 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:50 am 
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[go]$$cm141
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . X X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . 2 O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Unexpected! Seems like a good probing move.

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[go]$$cm141 This seems bad to me.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . 3 . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . 2 O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . X X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #156 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:16 am 
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[go]$$cm141
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . X X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #157 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:18 am 
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[go]$$cm141
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . X X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm1 sente continuation
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O 4 X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . O 3 1 2 . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . X X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #158 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:30 am 
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Huh, did lovelove miss black can m5 now to save his 2 stones by capturing n5 in a ladder, or just think this was bigger?

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Post #159 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:55 am 
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[go]$$cm141
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . 5 O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . X X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll post comments on this move later today or tomorrow.

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[go]$$cm141 Prisoners: Black 3 White 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . O . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X X . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O O X X X X X O X . 9 X . |
$$ | . O . X . X O . O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . O 8 6 7 . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . 0 O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . X X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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