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#224. graemy vs uriel
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Author:  uriel [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:15 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm108 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X B O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O M 1 . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is the only move as far as I can see
Author:  graemy [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:06 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm108 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O 2 . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


okay O: So he needs to play in this corner now, then maybe I can try something in the bottom left
Author:  uriel [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:27 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm110 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . 1 O B . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think taking letting him just take the corner is the same as resigning here. I don't have enough going into the endgame I think, so I have to fight here. This is going to be tough, but not only does it look necessary, I'm also growing tired of this game, so I wouldn't mind it being decided in this fight.
Author:  graemy [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:57 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm110 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . 2 X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, depending on what he plays next, things can change radically. I'm still having a hard time focusing on this kind of game. A good learning experience O:
Author:  uriel [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:14 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm112 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . 1 O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . B X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is the move I use to fight here from what I've read. Here we go into the deep...
Author:  graemy [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:22 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm112 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . 2 X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, I want to keep a capture of his ponnuki open, so I don't want them to connect, I think he still has to play in the corner as well, things look absolutely okay
Author:  uriel [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:37 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm114 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . B X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X 1 . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have to cut here so I can save a13/a12 for later
Author:  graemy [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:47 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm114 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X 2 . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I want to keep these stones, his middle may come under attack.
Author:  uriel [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:50 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm116 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X B 1 . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trigger:
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[go]$$Wcm116 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X B 1 . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O 2 . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  graemy [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
I have pulled the trigger :I I'll see myself out now...

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[go]$$Wcm116 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . 4 . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O 2 . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Oops, I misread. Well, he didn't play in his corner and I think this is dangerous for him.

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[go]$$Wcm116 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 4 5 . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . 2 3 7 X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . 0 8 O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . 9 . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  uriel [ Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:05 pm ]
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[go]$$Wcm120 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . B 1 . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I must block here
Author:  graemy [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:07 am ]
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[go]$$Wcm120 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


O: seems reasonable to me
Author:  uriel [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:33 am ]
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[go]$$Wcm120 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . B 1 . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Pretty sure it's my only move
Author:  graemy [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
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[go]$$Wcm120 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 X O . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this is best?
Author:  The Intrepid [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
graemy wrote:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm120 Captures: B=0 W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 X O . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This move by Black looks wrong (at a quick glance). Black probably should have chosen the ko variation:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . X O . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |[/go]
Author:  uriel [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
I resign. Thanks for the game graemy, I learned a lot. It's time to stop thrashing around and lie down in my grave. :salute:
Author:  graemy [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Thank you for the game O: I didn't think you were thrashing, I felt the game was pretty even through most of it. And maybe I'm not too far ahead now? I'm not so sure, counting isn't my strong point, as if to say I have any strong points, haha. Through the game, I felt it hard to keep focus over such a long period, how did you feel about that? Did it affect you at all?

How did you feel about the game?
Author:  uriel [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
It was quite a crazy game from my perspective! I think I played too greedy in a couple circumstances, I was trying to see how much I could get out of these more normal positions. You punished my overplays quite nicely overall I think, but I definitely felt behind for most of the game I think. By my estimation you were probably ahead about 15-25 points unless I managed some miracle life in sente in the top right, since I probably wouldn't have enough threats to win the ko the bottom right. It was really tough for me to keep interested in the game I think, which is mostly why I resigned here (although I do think you'd win if we actually played it out anyways :blackeye: ).

It was a very interesting game, I think I learned a couple things for sure! I've never studied the top right joseki much, I guess I underestimated my position and just went nuts from that point. Even a game as short as ~2 months (I've seen lots of these games go for over a year!) it was tough to stay motivated to read and plan out.

How about you?
Author:  graemy [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Yes, I thought it was a crazy game too. I often didn't know where to play next. I felt like I played a little risky as well, haha. Overall, it was fun.
Author:  uriel [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Yes, it was quite fun, but I'm also a bit relieved it's over ;-). Thanks for the game, graemy, and the comments from all the observers!
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