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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #181 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:19 am 
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[go]$$Bcm111 Move 111 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . W X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #182 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:48 am 
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[go]$$Bcm112 Move 112 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . O . B O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


To be honest, I didn't consider his response. I think that it's pretty good. I don't know why I didn't think of it.

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Offline Bill Spight
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #183 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:57 am 
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Bill Spight wrote:
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[go]$$Bc Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . b . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:b1: is better, IMO. It is true that White's thickness speaks against a severe attack. However, letting White have an easy two space extension is too lax. This pincer restricts White to an extension to "a". Also, if White now invades at "b", Black has room to extend to "a". Then neither invasion will have a base, but Black will. :)


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[go]$$Bc Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . 3 . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This way Black "gets the last (big) move" though. How much does this matter?

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[go]$$Bc Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . 4 . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 , 3 . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Is white okay here after taking the big move on the top? (Maybe 3 isn't best, but substitute some similar move if you prefer.)

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[go]$$Bc Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . 3 . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 , 5 . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . 4 . 6 . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This way there's a fight.


I regard the pincer as the last big play of the opening. The extension on top is definitely second tier because of White's wall.

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Last edited by Bill Spight on Tue May 25, 2010 4:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #184 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:05 am 
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White gained back the balance of points with his 3-3 invasion.

I have to be careful now, because the score is too close for comfort.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #185 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:29 am 
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[go]$$Bcm113 Move 113 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . W . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

now i wait and see what he will play

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Offline Solomon
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Post #186 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:39 am 
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If there ever was an optimal time to count for Black, it'd be now (though he should have also counted earlier, but this is just a great checkpoint).
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Post #187 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:58 am 
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[go]$$Bcm114 Move 114 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O B O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The game is pretty close, but this opportunity is too good to pass up. When I cut, white will have three groups to worry about, while all of my groups are pretty safe:

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[go]$$Wcm1 white 1 can be anything that protects.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . W X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , W W X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . W W . . . X X O |
$$ | . . W . . . . . . 5 W X W B O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 4 O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 2 X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . W . . . . . . . W W X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . W . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . W W X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If I continue to just play passively, I think I'll lose. I need to attack!

I probably won't kill anything, but hopefully I can gain points with this attack.

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Offline prokofiev
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #188 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:34 pm 
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Bill Spight wrote:
I regard the pincer as the last big play of the opening. The extension on top is definitely second tier because of White's wall.


Thanks, that makes sense, though I feared white's territory at the top more than expecting black to get a bunch, but maybe black's extension still doesn't limit it/change things so much?

Also, maybe the bottom left invasion was in the same (second tier) class as the extension on the top anyways.
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Post #189 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:05 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm115 Move 115 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O B O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X W |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i have been waiting for this. i think i can get sente and go ahead.

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Offline topazg
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Post #190 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:08 pm 
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Wow, Kirby doesn't even need to play a ko threat here does he ?

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[go]$$Bcm117 Move 117 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 3 X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X 1 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X 2 X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #191 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:14 pm 
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I was just thinking that, though I would have put your 19 at S1. Even being able to do the both of the attacks Kirby wants, I'd rather have my life be assured than ko. Or am I misreading the bottom corner's L&D status? Regardless, he definitely gets to do one for free. This makes it, what, a picnic ko for the white stones at S14?

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Post #192 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:19 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm116 Move 116 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O B O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . B |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Offline Magicwand
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Post #193 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:49 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm117 Move 117 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O B O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X W X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #194 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:57 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm118 Move 118 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O B O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . B . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Offline Magicwand
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Post #195 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:01 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm119 Move 119 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . W . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #196 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:06 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm119 Move 119 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X B X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Post #197 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:12 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm121 Move 121 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X W . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #198 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:19 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm121 Move 121 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . B . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #199 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:18 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm121 Move 121 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O W . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

it is about time i save them stone. i dont think he can cut me easily now.

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Offline FlameBlade
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Post #200 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:30 pm 
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I hated how black played last few moves. It's too submissive! I feel like black could have offered up an exchange, and maybe fought that ko. White feels like he has momentum, and last few moves meant more points for the thickness.
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