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 Post subject: Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Post #181 Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:16 pm 
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Sorry, man, long weekend, been away. Will post a move by Wed.

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Post #182 Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:54 am 
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Little more pushing.

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Post #183 Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:52 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X 7 . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i had alot of time to think about this move, the break helps me see some better moves
my second choice was

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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X 7 . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


it gets alot of points and is very solid, great local move

here are my thoughts on my move
it gets alot of center, and handicap games are based off of a good center because thats where white gets most of his points from (see internetgoschool handicap lessons)

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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O 6 . 0 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X 8 . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X 7 . 9 . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


its good shape to :study:

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Post #184 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:48 am 
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Sorry for the long delay.

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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X 8 . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Needed to make sure I couldn't be immediately cut. Been a long couple weeks at work, so it was hard to take some time to read.

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Post #185 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:40 am 
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O 9 X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


cut first think later :study:

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Post #186 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:58 pm 
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Yikes, that's really awkward shape.

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Post #187 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:57 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X 0 . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hmmm ... did I misread? Quite possible ...

However, there might be a good opportunity to try and kill the top black group, now ... let's see how this plays out.

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Post #188 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:30 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . 1 . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i need to get some liberties here i only got 2 right now and the nobi is good for that and it takes away his sente because if he plays there it would be atari... simple enough see ya

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Post #189 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X 2 . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yeah ... I guess this isn't going well ... :)

Forcing move first. Connect next move.

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Post #190 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:13 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . 3 X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #191 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:25 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X . . 4 . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Come get some! :)

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Post #192 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:42 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X 5 . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


yeah i wanna attack his group right now big time, but i must be patient,
this move threatens the cut wich will leave his group baseless... i cant wait :rambo:
so many ways to cut
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X 5 . 4 . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O a . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O b . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O c . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #193 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:04 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O 6 . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #194 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:34 am 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O 7 . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O 6 . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O a . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O b . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O c . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

a-too greedy
b-just right
c-too soft

cut first think later! :study:

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Post #195 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:57 am 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X 8 O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #196 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:54 am 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . 9 . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #197 Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:42 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . 0 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #198 Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:17 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . 1 . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i got tired of just responding, so i broke away from the fight to defend some leaks that could arise, this moves just takes away his sente at J1 so he can't try nothing funny.

really im looking for some better moves, i have been playing with the stones again so far i got

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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . 0 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . b . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O a . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X d . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


its almost endgame time so i need make moves that are more sharper and valuable

*take your time me*
:study:

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Post #199 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:56 am 
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Wot wot?

I understand his desire not to continue "following" Marcus, but with a move like this? What sequence is he reading that would actually require this move?

I'd be more inclined to keep up the pressure on white while you have him running.

A move that looks interesting for me:

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[go]$$Bc Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O 1 . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Also, should he be so quick to give up the his two stones in the upper right?

For 1986:
You mention your last move as defending so leaks that could arise -- did you read out any sequences that would put you in a bad spot?

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Post #200 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:26 am 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X 3 . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O 2 1 . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


this ends in gote because shortage of liberties
but i want to play that move
so i played my move to take way his sente
and keep mine for the future

every move counts espically in that fight on the bottom

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