Well, he's not one to let you tenuki if he can punish it locally... There might be a way to use that productively in the future.

Anyway, the goal now is to build up central influence, and keep black low on this side. Central influence should work well with my stones on the left.

I don't expect to get sente out of this.

Out of the below options I was looking at only this seems any good. The problem with tenukiing is that a White play at this current location is big and feels semi-sente. I am also pretty certain I won't get sente after invading the left to clean this up. So I will take this sente for now and let that stone die.

All flawed analysis, can't be bothered to clean up:

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[go]$$Wcm18 Move 18
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O d . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
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Wasn't quite expecting this, could be a good move. There's a few ways to respond to this between 'a', 'b', and 'c' or even possibly 'd' at some point, but all options solidify his group. 'a' certainly gives him too much outside influence to be worth playing now.

He can't do much to the komoku, so I will deal with the urgent area on the board right now - the left.

Edit:

In the middle of posting my move I suddenly thought of this:

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[go]$$Wcm18 Move 18
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O 0 O 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 3 2 X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 1 5 . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, black wants his corner safe. Let's make honte and see what he does next.

The board is still pretty even, so no need to go too crazy. If black doesn't invade my left corner soon, I'll probably spend my next sente to protect it.

Vacilitated between this and approaching, went with this due to sente + no desire for weak group.

So we met up on KGS and did a best of 5 series (I won 3-1). I think we both have some ideas about the other's weaknesses. I dare say running battles favor me (:P). Throwing stones around inside a moyo in an attempt to invade does not.

...

I was sort of playing with the idea of trying out a joseki where white gets sente, but honestly I don't mind the nice wall I get from this, even with gote.

Witness the power of my moyo. Obviously it's not going to all turn in to territory. In fact, since it covers mostly the center, very little of it will probably become territory. But if white decides to invade I'll get the running battle game I'm looking for.

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[go]$$Wcm32 Move 32
$$ {LN C14 P10}
$$ {LN C6 D10}
$$ {LN K3 Q7}
$$ {LN C14 D10}
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

For the sake of fairness, black has a moyo too. His involves fewer lines so it's closer to being proper territory. It's a bit smaller than my moyo, but not by a large degree.

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[go]$$Wcm32 Move 32
$$ {LN F15 R12}
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

In terms of score, on the board it's fairly close, but white has sente. So trying to be fancy probably put me a bit behind.

Played a few games against Numsgil on KGS, impatient reading cost me very dearly and I lost overall. Twice, I got murdered by zombie groups that wont' stay down. I'm glad this is a slow game, sometimes my opponent will throw stuff out and hope it sticks, and its to my discredit that it works more often than not.

On actual game. This move feels so big, I have to get it, even if means allowing white a move on the left.

He took a big move, since it's the pivot of our two moyos.

So I'll take the other big point pivot. Normally this move would be too loose, but since it functions as a reduction of his moyo first and an expansion of my moyo second, I can probably get away with it.

After this I'll count the score and decide whether I need to try and invade his moyo or if I can just reduce (unless he invades me first).

White should not have played this variation of the 3-3. He should have taken sente somehow (there's a bunch of ways to do this).

That move looks too loose considering the Black's solidity in that area. I want to start a fight there but need to think about how is the best way to go about it.

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[go]$$Bcm35
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . 0 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O 9 4 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 7 3 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 6 8 . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm45 55 - 57 at a ,b ,c
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$$ | . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 4 . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 O 2 8 9 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 O X 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So close...

Invasion it is, then (black is inside my moyo, and fairly deep, so even though this sort of shoulder hit is normally reducing, it ends in gote for black, so it's an invasion).

Something like this is bad because it forces black towards a weak white conection, harming my position on the top. And black still has access to the center where I was aiming for moyo.

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X
$$ | . . . O . . . . X
$$ | . . . . . X . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . 4 O . . .
$$ | . . . 3 2 . . . .
$$ | . . . 1 B . . . .
$$ | . . . O . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .[/go]

This is better. I say, "okay, you can reduce me, but I get all the rest." Black still has to make a move to escape after this, so I get sente.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ {LN H9 F13}
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . .
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , .
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . B 2 4 . . . .
$$ | . . . O 1 3 . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , .
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O .
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ ------------------------[/go]

Something like this is similar. Depending on how lightly black wants to treat stones, I should be able to harden the bottom and/or the side.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -----------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . .
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , .
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . B . 2 . . . .
$$ | . . . O 1 3 . . . , .
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , .
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O .
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ ------------------------[/go]

Unless black pulls out a clever tesuji or is willing to play really lightly, this should end in either sente for me or the death of most of black's invasion stones.

In terms of what I should get based on the size of the initial moyo, and it's openness, I think I'm doing alright.

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[go]$$Bcm37 My plan
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . 4 3 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O 2 . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm38 Move 38
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O 1 . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Continuing from before. Normally pushing from behind is bad, but I want to make sure black doesn't have a sente sequence against these stones, so I need to get 6 liberties.

I would have kept pushing as black. That trigger feels slack. I wonder, with that trigger, do I still need the D15/C15 exchange? Is cutting that white stone bigger than keeping the corner invasion open? Do I need to reduce the big white moyo, and how deep do I need to go? What is the timing for doing that? Lots of reading + counting needed here.

In my admittedly 5k kgs opinion, the time for reducing/invading the moyo was at 35..

Black played:

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[go]$Bcm35 Move 35
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this is probably the wrong direction to come at this.

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[go]$Bcm35 Move 35
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this suits black much better. It's not too late to play here, but, notice now white has another wall here, making the moyo that much stronger, and more profit will be made.

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[go]$$Wcm38 Move 38
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O 1 . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Doesn't look as great for black now.

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[go]$Bcm35 Move 35
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . a , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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I prefer the shoulder hit or a mid-reduction more. The cap is good if you want thickness ordon't want to have reducing both sides as miai, or if you're scared of getting out. However, the shoulder hit seems better for getting in there. I could be wrong though. Regardless, I think somewhere around 'b' is going to add up to be a bigger reduction, anyways. Also, I think extending from the bottom right is probably bigger than capping at the moment.

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[go]$Bcm35 Move 35
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$$ | . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . c . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . O . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . X . . |
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I actually like C a little better than your B if we're going deep, but anything, 1, A, B, C, all way better than the marked black move at 35, in my opinion.

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[go]$$Bcm39 Move 39-41
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$$ | . . O . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . a O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . B , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Later on, 'a' and 'b' should be miai for my purposes.

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[go]$$Wcm42 Move 42
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$$ | w w w . . X . O X . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . w . . X . . b . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . b . b . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . w . . O . b . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . w . . . . b b b b b b b X . X . . |
$$ | . . w . X X X b b . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X , . . w w O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O w w w w . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . w O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . w . . . . . |
$$ | w O . . . . . . . . . . w . . b X . . |
$$ | b X O O . . . . . , w w . . . b . b b |
$$ | . X X X O O O w w O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . b . . . |
$$ | . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . b . . . |
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The above are some arbitrary boundaries. Let's think just in terms of what each player is asking for (rounding to nearest multiple of 5 to make the math easier):

Black:
Bottom right: 10
Bottom left: 10
Moyo: 80
Total: 100

White:
Big central moyo-territorial-thing: 90
Komi: 5
Sente: 15
Total: 110

So the score is close (within 10 from my loose counting), so I don't have to try and invade black's moyo if I feel that black's moyo isn't any more hardened than mine.

Of course, I don't really have any side bets. I have to get points from my huge center. The fact that it still has two open borders is concerning.

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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I need this move if I want to keep the boundaries of my moyo. If I allow black to have 1, my moyo on the right is as good as gone.

White might decide to just treat this as a forcing move and leave it alone. I don't have a super compelling follow-up.

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O a . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X . . |
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$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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This is a capping reduction of black's corner while also starting to close up one of the borders of my moyo. It has some annoying followup plays, but I can't really super threaten the corner, so black might take the opportunity to turn at 'a', as that's definitely the larger play.

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . X . O X . . . 6 . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . 4 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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This is a reduction of black's moyo. Honestly, black's moyo is pretty well defended so trying a full blown invasion would probably be a good idea only if I was desperate. If black tries to turn at 2, I can jump into black's moyo, and most of it turns to dame. Of course, black damages a lot of my moyo, too, but tit-for-tat, so things should stay even.

This is also a good point since if black takes it I get reduced instead, and black grows his moyo.

So to put it together, I'm going to try and get my reduction in sente and then defend the center, which may or may not end in sente depending on how black is thinking about that stone.

Black might also go the tit-for-tat route, and then things get really messy, but I don't mind playing that way either.

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O 3 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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