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Author: | EdLee [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:31 pm ] |
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This week it's my turn to recover from jet lag. Will post when my brain clears up. ![]() |
Author: | Celebrir [ Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 166. EdLee vs. Celebrir |
Take your time ![]() |
Author: | EdLee [ Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:46 pm ] |
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I'm not sure of the best direction, and I don't think getting over my jetlag will help tremendously here. ![]() |
Author: | Celebrir [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:19 am ] |
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I expect something like this:
The nice thing in this variation would be that there is still some aji from the 'a' direction. If I block from the other direction his position would look better in my opinion:
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Author: | EdLee [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:29 pm ] |
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Author: | Celebrir [ Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 166. EdLee vs. Celebrir |
I guess this is the only move. At least I don't know any other moves and since this is closed book I can't lookup others. If anyone knows other variations which would be better here I'm very interested. |
Author: | EdLee [ Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:52 am ] |
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Author: | Celebrir [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:40 pm ] |
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Sorry that I'm taking so much time, but I have to do a lot at my university ![]()
I first feared this ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | EdLee [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:41 am ] |
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No problem, Celebrir. ![]() First feeling. (a) and (b) miai? Will think about it. ![]()
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Author: | EdLee [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:12 pm ] |
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Author: | Celebrir [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:31 am ] |
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Let's review another joseki to compare this result:
From some high dans I heared this is not longer considered equal because it is a little bit to slow for W. I think my position is better because I was able to play at 'a' instead of ![]() |
Author: | EdLee [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:32 pm ] |
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Not sure about this result. ![]() |
Author: | Celebrir [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 166. EdLee vs. Celebrir |
I'm thinking about this quite a lot. I won't connect because if he would cut it looks overconcentrated:
Points I'm thinking about are ![]() I'm currently tending to play 'a' because that looks like a perfect shape if B plays there. But playing ![]() One could argue that the B group becomes unstable if I would connect, but it is safe with more points like this in my opinion:
Even this cut doesn't look great to me. |
Author: | Celebrir [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:00 am ] |
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Some thoughts about the moves I mentioned in Dia. 4: ![]()
This doesn't look that bad but I think it would be better if ![]() a:
This prevents his ideal shape at the right and I think he has to secure his corner after this move because I can start a really serious attack if I get ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() b:
I'm not sure whether the exchange ![]() ![]() c:
There are far to much possible reactions to explain here but I think this is not so because ![]() I think ![]() |
Author: | EdLee [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:23 am ] |
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W is treading lightly with ![]() perhaps partly because it's not easy to settle either way. One first feeling is ![]() between ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Author: | EdLee [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:50 am ] |
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After some thought, ![]()
Back to the board. After ![]() Big: the left, the top, and (a) is a big shared point at the bottom. So what to do about ![]()
The next idea was the cap ![]()
If outside hane ![]() ![]() ![]() even though I have things like ![]()
If inside hane ![]()
...However, if ![]() ![]() ![]() else if ![]() ![]()
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Author: | Celebrir [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:28 am ] |
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I have to admit that ![]() ![]()
I think ![]() |
Author: | EdLee [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:40 am ] |
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Natural, only move? Variation (right side rotated for space): If ![]() ![]()
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Author: | Celebrir [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:37 pm ] |
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I'm playing this because I doesn't want to fight with b in Dia. 10. I was thinking long about c in Dia. 10 but it seems like B gets to much in the corner while W gets only a little bit better base. |
Author: | EdLee [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:50 pm ] |
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First feeling:
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