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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Post #41 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:07 am 
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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . 7 6 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . 4 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . 3 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 8 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . . 5 . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This was a puzzling position for me to play. There are a few considerations around it, but primarily I'm playing to ward off an invasion on the right hand side by increasing territory and thickness. It looks fairly hard to ignore (although of course I need to respond if he extends) due to:
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[go]$$Bcm29 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 2 . 4 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X 3 . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Some weirdness is likely to go on if he resists, and that's less clear for me:


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[go]$$Bcm29 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 . 5 . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 7 2 . 3 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . 6 . X 4 . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My gut feeling is that he may respond as follows, but I'll treat it as an opportunity to defend the corner:


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[go]$$Bcm29 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . b 2 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . 1 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . O . 3 . a X a . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There are still weak points around "a", and the lean at "b" is big.
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 Post subject: Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Post #42 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:51 am 
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i dont know if i can call that a mistake but i will say it is loose

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 Post subject: Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Post #43 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:58 am 
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Thinking cap time!!

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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . 7 6 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . 4 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . 3 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 8 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . . 5 . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #44 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:07 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . 7 6 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . 4 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . 3 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 8 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . . 5 . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Aiming towards:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . 3 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 2 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . 6 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


or ....


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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . 8 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 7 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 2 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . 3 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Post #45 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:20 am 
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P8 jump

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Post #46 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:29 am 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 2 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The jump stops him from being heavy, but it does leave White connecting underneath, which seems valuable too ... I'll probably do that instead and then go crazy inside magicwand's territory ... for great excitement!

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[go]$$Bcm31 Something crazy perhaps?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . 8 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 2 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . 3 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #47 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:44 am 
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Post #48 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:51 am 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 2 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . 3 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, let's do this first... why am I considering connecting on the second line when he has to live first?

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 8 6 5 1 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 2 O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . 3 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #49 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:57 am 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #50 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:03 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


How cute:

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[go]$$Bcm37 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 2 4 6 8 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . 3 5 7 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is clearly bad for White. I think my move is more interesting, but maybe it's worse than doing something else entirely, the cut may be simply overplay - still, this is a lot harder to read.


Further thoughts:

Hmmm, maybe this was more honest:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . a . . 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It makes shape and threatens that cut, and makes moves around "a" more interesting ... le sigh.

If he pushes, I think I ought to suck it up a bit now:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . 0 8 . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Moves like "a" now look somewhat interesting, but I think :w36: was a bit of a blunder.

Further edit: for example:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 0 8 7 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . 6 2 3 O 9 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O 1 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


For no great justice :(
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Post #51 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:18 am 
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I think the issue with the double approach is that black can play very strongly and take sansan.

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[go]$$Bcm11 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #52 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:27 am 
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Further thoughts:

I think my current plan is probably:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 0 a 8 O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 7 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:w36: was just bad, even "a" was a much better alternative
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Post #53 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:44 am 
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his last move seems like an overplay but i dont see how i can punish him. What i played is only move possible move. I wil read more later

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Post #54 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:47 am 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 0 . 8 O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 7 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Feel free to play a different :b39: if you wish :)

Boo hiss. Sucky game :mad:

Still, he's still all running and weak, and that's good enough for now. After his next move or two, I'll invade back - and probably die, but where's the fun in not trying.
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Post #55 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:59 am 
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I disagree and atari instead. O6?

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Post #56 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:04 am 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . 0 X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yeah, ok, that's fine :)

Actually, his move makes sense, he has a net that I missed, :w36: was even worse than I thought. So, this is my ill advised invasion. I'm not actually convinced I need something this drastic as White seems to be doing ok, but I hate that feeling of "whatever I can do, magicwand can do better" whenever he invades, so I want to play this anyway. Overplay number 2...

I also considered the "a" points:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . a . a . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . 0 X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . a . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #57 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:18 am 
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this game ends here

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Post #58 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:32 am 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . 1 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . 2 . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #59 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:41 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . 4 1 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . 3 O X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . 2 . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, here goes nothing ... again, it may be better to just run away, but I want to see if I can get semi-sabaki here:

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[go]$$Bcm45 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . 6 5 O X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . 4 X O X . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 2 1 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . 8 . O . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . a b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . X . X X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


cuts like "a" may become interesting, provided he can't do something annoying like "b", which I think he may be able to
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