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Post #61 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:43 pm 
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Zazu was Simba's tutor in the lion king, I think. Also a toucan.

Now see here!

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Loons,
I missed the Lion King -- but my friends say it's good. :)

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Post #63 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:23 pm 
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Post #64 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:13 pm 
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decided to take the corner... I couldn't help myself...

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Post #65 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:30 pm 
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I think this is the right side to block on. I expected him to jump into the corner - this was one of two moves I planned for. After this joseki, I'm not sure what I'm going to do just yet, but this is the only move for now, I feel. I'm tempted to aim around K17 after this sequence, but the shimari in the top right is not facing that direction. Still, it's fairly big I think. I'm studying a book on fuseki theory now. It's very nice to have these ideas spelled out for me as I've never really studied fuseki before. I also borrowed a board and some stones from go club so I can visualise the positions and what is going on more easily.

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Post #66 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:31 pm 
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Post #67 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:41 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Standard joseki, not much to say here ^_^ .

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Post #68 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:16 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Again.. standard replies here... they actually go over it on the new eurogotv lectures.. here is a link to that lecture if you want to check it out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxugNgNl ... r_embedded

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Post #69 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:43 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


More joseki for your observing pleasure :P ...

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Post #70 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:46 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #71 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:56 am 
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$$ | . . X O 8 X . O . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not really sure what to say here, so have this instead: http://xkcd.com/882/ :P .

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Post #72 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:18 am 
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$$ | . . X O O X . O . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Jordus, Simba:
In the future, once you are very familiar with fairly common sequences, you can offer a trigger to your opponent;
so for example W could offer this to B as part of :w16:, and B could either accept or decline:
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$$ | . . 8 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . .
$$ | . . X 1 7 X . O .
$$ | . . 6 4 5 . . . .
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I shy away from triggers at my current level.. for one, I have never studied joseki, I just noticed a few patterns as I study games. So if I don't know it, my opponent might not either...

Maybe I am looking at it the wrong way and should suggest a trigger anyways? I'm not sure..

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Jordus,
You did the right thing. :tmbup:

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$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . O . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As planned, I think this is quite big. His shimari isn't pointing in this direction, but it still would be a nice extension for him to get. It's also a good extension from my hoshi stone, so I'll use my sente to get it now.


EdLee wrote:
Jordus, Simba:
In the future, once you are very familiar with fairly common sequences, you can offer a trigger to your opponent;
so for example W could offer this to B as part of :w16:, and B could either accept or decline:
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[go]$$Wm16
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$$ | . . 8 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . .
$$ | . . X 1 7 X . O .
$$ | . . 6 4 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ -------------------[/go]


Admittedly I'm not quite sure what a trigger is - how is it defined? I just looked on Sensei's library and there was no page about it.

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$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . O . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I am playing this approach with hopes for white to play (a) or (b) playing to make they group strong...
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . b . . . 0 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . a . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . O . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


this will allow me to play this sequence which gives me influence towards the center... enabling me to more easily destroy whites chances of large moyos
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[go]$$Bcm Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . 0 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . 3 . O . 2 . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . O . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ {AR E12 J12}
$$ {AR E12 E9}[/go]

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Post #78 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:24 am 
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[go]$$Bcm25 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . O . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Okay, hopefully this pincer is good - seems people were a bit 'argh!' over the last one. My thoughts are that this pincer stops him benifiting fully from playing something like D10, and also I have presence on the top of the board. The fuseki book I'm now studying says that I shouldn't be afraid to use a severe pincer when I have presence on the side of the board adjacent to the pincer (the top in this case). I'm a bit concerned about black having all four corners (because of the proverb), but I don't see why this pincer is bad. We'll see soon enough. Fuseki almost over, yay, then I can play the stronger parts of my game... I just did a quick count - looks like he has ~48 points and I have ~13 + whatever I can make from my moyo on the top. I'd guess I'm behind by 15-20 points, as I expected I would be at the end of the fuseki. But now the weakest part of my game is about to be over with, I can start to work my way back into it hopefully :) . If only I didn't always end up ~20 points behind after fuseki, I'd probably be a couple of stones stronger... Hopefully this book will help me with that. It's kind of frustrating that my fuseki skills are like a 15k's, but at least my middlegame and endgame skills are a lot better...

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Simba,
Another example:
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[go]$$W
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . X 1 . .
$$ | . . . . . O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ -------------------[/go]
When B posts his move for :b2:, he can offer W the following:
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[go]$$W
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . 3 . . .
$$ | . . . X 4 X 1 . .
$$ | . . . . 2 O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ -------------------[/go]
It's just to save a bit of time; in this case, to fast-forward two moves.

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Post #80 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:26 pm 
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Go Jordus!

Cheers to Simba, too, of course... :-)

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