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 Post subject: Re: 146- speedchase 8kyu versus sur 7k
Post #61 Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:29 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . 3 X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O B . . B B . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want this group to live, and that will be hard if the stone he attached to is killed

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 Post subject: Re: 146- speedchase 8kyu versus sur 7k
Post #62 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:42 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O 4 . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #63 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:43 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]




This move is simple. I want life, and this secures it best (because it prevents the Hane on the second line.

I think his move might have been a mistake. If he wanted to strengthen his connection, he could have made a table shape. keeping in mind that is still a weak group, a table would be better of eye space (in my opinion).

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Post #64 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:04 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 6 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #65 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:29 pm 
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I'm going to have to think about this for a while, I am trying to find a way to cut of the :wc: stones without getting myself killed.
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X c . X X . W . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O b . a W W . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


right now I am considering turn at a, hane at b, and bad shape at c.

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Post #66 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:24 pm 
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Right now I think that settling is more important than attacking his group, so that rules out the turn. I can't decide how to settle though. I don't like the hane or the empty triangle.
Still thinking...

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Post #67 Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:22 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 7 . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Decided on the empty triangle because although it is bad shape I think it lives. of course the last time I thought something lived... I don't want to talk about it.


Last edited by speedchase on Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #68 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:29 am 
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His group doesn't look alive yet, but I probably can't kill it just now. I have to think of a move that seals him in and gets sente.

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Post #69 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:28 am 
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I can't see why they consider the bottom left dead, I think black can live or at the very least get a ko.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X 2 O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 3 X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 9 8 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Is there something I am missing? 10 at A2, 11 at A3. White can't go for a bent four because black will live.
And cut at D5 which is pretty nasty.

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Post #70 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:59 am 
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I can't see why they consider the bottom left dead, I think black can live or at the very least get a ko.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X 2 O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 3 X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 9 8 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Is there something I am missing? 10 at A2, 11 at A3. White can't go for a bent four because black will live.
And cut at D5 which is pretty nasty.

White 10 at A3?

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Post #71 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:54 am 
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Aphelion wrote:
White 10 at A3?


I knew it had to be something simple, given that everyone else discarded that option.
The cut is still ugly. Though I can't read it fully, I think white can manage it.

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Post #72 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:00 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 8 . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #73 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:53 am 
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:b37: is beyond ugly. It shouldn't have been considered as a possible move. :w38: is painful. Now, even if black lives, he's still in terrible shape.

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Post #74 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:58 pm 
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Black has been too worried this game about making immediate life for his groups.

Better to keep moving out into the open, expand into the side or center, avoid being enclosed. Especially if you can cut the opponent's groups apart as you do so. Your opponent can't kill you if he can't surround you.

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Post #75 Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:04 am 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . 9 . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


He needs a move to prevent this

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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O 2 X 5 O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 O 3 . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . 4 . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #76 Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:20 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O 0 . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I couldn't find anything nasty. I thought I saw something before, but sadly I don't now.

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Post #77 Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:02 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Without this move I believe I am susceptible to death if he plays :w1: below


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here I am safe see:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . 1 2 . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

my move is better than playing at :w1: because it lives with more points.

The explanations with alot of diagrams are back! :tmbup: I hope they are right and I diddn't screw up and die again, although I am better at reading when there are more stones. this is a much easier problem than the mess i made in the bottom corner so I don't feel too scared

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Post #78 Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:21 am 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I should be satisfied with upper side, but some time ago I read this situation and I thought I would get to play M18 in sente against his weak group and get a free monkey jump. I don't know what went wrong, maybe just my reading :-P

I have to find the biggest moves on the board now and I suck at this stage. I think he needs to protect against the peep and then I'll probably jump to tengen. Seems big. But it probably isn't as it's in the center. I promise to think more after his move and find something nice :-)

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Post #79 Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:54 am 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X 3 X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wanted to find a way to avoid connecting but I couldn't

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Post #80 Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:54 am 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm lost here. I haven't played go at all recently and I'm very rusty at the moment. And this part of the game was my weakest to begin with. Anyway, I need to reduce him somehow and this doesn't look bad, maybe I'll even make some points myself.

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