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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #81 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:51 am 
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After :w43: I think White's in a bit of trouble for the game... He was already struggling a bit for points without having a weak group to be chased for profit, and his top left group is still in need of TLC
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Offline Boidhre
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #82 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:10 am 
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[go]$$Wcm39 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . 7 . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I've no idea if this works or not but in for a penny, in for a pound.
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Offline Marcus
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #83 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:12 am 
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Personally, I'd play one space closer at R13. I don't think Boidhre's move is bad, though.
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Offline skydyr
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #84 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:38 am 
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I'm with Marcus... white's stone is in such a bad position, it should be attacked as severely as possible.
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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #85 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:43 am 
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I would have played Boidhre's move :P

There are some real advantages with respect to the corner this way, and I think it's hard to kill that stone, so if you're going to chase for profit, having more secure profit is probably a good thing.

My 5c/5p anyway
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Offline skydyr
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #86 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:54 am 
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I would have played Boidhre's move :P

There are some real advantages with respect to the corner this way, and I think it's hard to kill that stone, so if you're going to chase for profit, having more secure profit is probably a good thing.

My 5c/5p anyway


My thought was that black still has aji in the corner, so he'll need to come back and fix at some point anyways. It may as well be tougher for white in the meanwhile.
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Offline tomukaze
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #87 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:06 am 
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[go]$$Wcm39 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . 7 . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #88 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:24 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . 0 . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . 7 . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Boidhre
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #89 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:27 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Possibly I should take sente here but my defensive instincts are screaming.

If he doesn't connect I have a in sente:

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[go]$$Wcm39 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . a O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . b . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . c . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . d . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . 7 . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If he connects I play b immediately. If he jumps to c, I jump to d.
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Offline Boidhre
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #90 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:33 am 
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I'm an idiot.
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Offline skydyr
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #91 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:36 am 
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I'm an idiot.


@Boidhre
Care to elaborate?
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Offline Boidhre
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #92 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:42 am 
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Boidhre wrote:
I'm an idiot.


@Boidhre
Care to elaborate?


I believe the hane followed up by b would have been better. I didn't hane because I made a really dumb misread.
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Offline tomukaze
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #93 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:32 am 
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[go]$$Wcm49 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, I managed to stop a connection with the top group and am now attacking the base. The plan is to chase him towards the centre and then build up enough strength to invade the top. Also if my group at G15 gets into difficulty I can always make a gote eye in the corner.

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Offline Boidhre
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #94 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:53 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O 2 . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll leave the threatened connection on the side as a ko threat. Might as well make a fight about it, his group on top has no eyes either.
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Offline tomukaze
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #95 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:22 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O 2 . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #96 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:27 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And now the fun begins.
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Offline tomukaze
 Post subject: Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze
Post #97 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:28 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . 5 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:lol:

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Offline Boidhre
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Post #98 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:35 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . 5 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 6 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trying to stay connected. Honestly I expected the peep from underneath not the attach on top.
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Post #99 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:37 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Wcm55 Prisoners: none
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