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 Post subject: Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Post #201 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:06 am 
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[go]$$Bcm161 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . 8 O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm doing this so he cannot:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . 1 O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Which might give him some points.
He needs to answer, else I'll capture some stones:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X 1 . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #202 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:18 am 
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[go]$$Bcm161 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X 9 X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Nothing clever this time. Must answer the peep.

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Post #203 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:23 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm161 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . 0 O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Going this side instead of at the cut, as this way I might destroy a point or so and he has to connect, so it is sente.

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Post #204 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:12 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X 1 . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


What ugly shape I have here. :D Oh well. Can't lose these (heavy?) stones now ...


EDIT:
MY play at G11 seems to have been a mistake. I should have made the solid connection at G12. The G10 stone is an unimportant stone now, so saving it wasn't really the best plan. Playing G11 gave him some good forcing moves against my group, making me heavy.

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Post #205 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:22 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #206 Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:33 am 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . 3 O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hmmm ... think I should do another count soon.

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Post #207 Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:12 am 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O 4 . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #208 Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:16 am 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X 5 . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


A quick count puts me up by about 10 points, I think.

I'm not very good at calculating endgame values. My current move is only 1 point in sente but sets up another single point sente move at E9, but I probably won't play E9 immediately if I can find a bigger play. My opponent would have to take gote to play E9 (for a single point), so he likely won't play it immediately either.

There are a few places left to play after this:

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[go]$$Bcm171 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . e . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . f . . . O X O . . X X X O d |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . b . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X 5 . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . c O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . a . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have no idea where to play for :b77: ... c and f feel more urgent than a, b, d or e.

a - While I don't need to respond to this if White plays it, White gains a chunk if I don't.
b - It's sente for White, but not a big gain. I'll probably leave this for white to play.
c - Playing this before white can play A5 feels huge to me. Maybe it's not as big as it feels?
d - It's gote for both of us here.
e - Again gote, but I have to be careful of the O16 cut. I don't think there's anything to worry about, but I'll keep an eye there.
f - I find this area hard to evaluate for endgame. Feels big enough.

I'll have to decide soon where I want to go.

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Post #209 Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:20 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . 6 . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #210 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:54 am 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O 7 . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This was expected, of course. 1-point in sente that he could have taken any time. I expect him to go back to answer :b75: now.

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Post #211 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:10 am 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b3: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X 8 . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #212 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:21 am 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b3: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . 9 O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll have to ask the stronger folks on here later if this is the right endgame play on this board. It seems like there are only a few options, and it feels big to me. I'm not know for very aalytical play, though. ;)

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Post #213 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:34 am 
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[go]$$Bcm171 :b3: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . X O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . 0 . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #214 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:14 am 
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[go]$$Bcm181 :b3: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . X O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X 1 . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'd like to keep White's gains here to a minimum.

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Post #215 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:47 am 
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[go]$$Bcm181 :b3: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . X O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . 2 . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X X . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #216 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:32 am 
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[go]$$Bcm181 :b3: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . X O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . 3 O . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X X . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #217 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:48 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . X O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . X O . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . 4 , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X X . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #218 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:54 am 
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[go]$$Bcm181 :b3: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . 5 . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . X O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . X O . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . O , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X X . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This makes the most sense to me right now. After this, it's all about cleaning up the edges of our territories. Will have to make sure the center White group is as small as it can be.

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Post #219 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:26 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O 6 X . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . X O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . X O . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . O , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X X . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #220 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:34 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm181 :b3: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O O X . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . 7 . X . . X X . O O . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O X . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . X O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . X O . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . O , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X X . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is kind of nice, and now we're at a point where the game is mostly decided, I think. I'm going to try and examine the board later tonight and see if I can work out the value of various endgame plays from here. Also, I intend to do another count of the game to see where we're at.

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