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Post #81 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:39 am 
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$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . 7 2 1 5 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . O 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

A similar result, I think.

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Post #82 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:54 am 
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . 7 2 1 5 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 9 O 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Magicwand style empty hide tag!


Nah kidding. I dunno where he's going to play, honestly. I think the opening is good for black, so he probably has to do something drastic.

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Post #83 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:11 pm 
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think I have miai to reduce top/top-right, so I can get a valuable move at the edge of two frameworks. My shape bottom right is unpleasant, but black lost three stones.

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Post #84 Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:56 am 
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Post #85 Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:02 pm 
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Post #86 Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:52 pm 
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Just for fun:

According to Zen, Black should play Q12 or P8 next; the game is close, but white has a slightly higher chance of winning (although it considers black to be ahead in territory right now).

CrazyStone likes exchanging G18 for F18 first, then H14. CS also thinks the game is close, and that white is slightly ahead.

Also, I didn't let the analysis for white's last move run very long, but both programs liked s17* (instead of G6).

*EDIT: I meant R17 (3-3 point).


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Post #87 Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:09 pm 
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So I think I have made one mistake so far, :w22: :
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 1 3 5 . , a . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I was afraid of my (readily living) group being vaguely surrounded, which was not a big threat. Instead I think a pincer like 'a' might have been better.

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Post #88 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:16 am 
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Explanation to follow later.

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Post #89 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:58 am 
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There seems to be little choice here. If black gets to play P8, it looks like an easy win.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So white must do something like this:

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[go]$$Wcm48
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #90 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:41 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I know I talked about top having miai with N16, but I think my move is rather miai to take good care of my right stones. Also it seems thick in a place I was formerly slightly thin.

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Post #91 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:21 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . b X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . z . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . a . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . y 4 . . . . . . . 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

'a' and 'b' seem like the next directions, with 'a' being more interesting. I tentatively expect :b51: . I need to resist flexibly to use my thickness, perhaps 'y', perhaps 'z'. What about one space above 'y'?

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Post #92 Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:34 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , 4 . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to create some aji here first before I do anything else. He's pretty committed to this moyo plan, but I'm not so convinced it's actually that great. There's a lot of trouble I feel like I can cause.

My previous move was to set up to attack white's weak point in his shape while taking territory, but he doesn't seem to care. I think I'll aim at that cut soon.

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Post #93 Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:32 am 
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[go]$$Wcm48
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . y 1 . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . f O X . 6 7 . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O z 4 5 . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . e . O 8 O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . d b 9 0 a . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . c . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White can actually capture at a and the corner doesn't die as z is atari, but black gets f in sente which is nice yose and makes any white invasion of the left side nigh on impossible. But I would probably defend on the corner side as I don't see black achieving much on the lower side. And I really don't like 53 for 54 making white stronger, and if white can atari at y and black connects that is so sad. So I'm not convinced this is a good move by black.

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Post #94 Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:47 am 
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How about the response at G2?

White 2 at G4 doesn't work:

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X 8 6 O 9 . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 5 4 . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , B 3 2 . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White 2 at G5 is complicated:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 3 2 6 . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , B 4 5 . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not sure who is better here.

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Post #95 Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:58 am 
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I don't like it, too thin. I want to help 48 more. It would be harder to resist moves like black j6 or g7 with g2. I did a pattern search and there were 39 hits with 26 my block, 7 solid connect, and 1 your hanging connection (if that's the right term?).

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Post #96 Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:25 pm 
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My fighting spirit tells me he's trying to give me the run around.
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[go]$$Wcm48
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , 4 . . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O a O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . l . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

After :b51: for 'a', something like 'b' seems to have gotten better. I do have a kind of dopey connection like 'l'.

Anyway, I feel like I should immediately try and rip up the left in response. Hyperbolically speaking, surely.

Also I still have top to aim at.

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Post #97 Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:09 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O O . , . . . X . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . O , 4 5 . . . , . O . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I guess we'll see if he wants to live on bottom?

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Post #98 Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:24 pm 
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I'm pretty unhappy with the joseki in the bottom right. Black's corners are nicer. I have a potentially very big moyo, but it's going to be difficult to appropriately convert into points. The silver lining is that I got that play on the edge of two moyo bottom left. What can ya do.

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Post #99 Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:25 am 
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What do you think your mistake was?

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I would normally have played a one space pincer there, because black doesn't really have a complicated resource. Perhaps even one space low?

As to P6, I think I agree- I should have stuck to my guns and played O5.

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