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Post #121 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:11 pm 
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$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Almost according to plan, except he hasn't interposed the peep at L5.
As planned, I'll let him have it if he really wants it.

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Post #122 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:19 pm 
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$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . 2 5 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O 2 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O X . . . 1 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$B var
$$ ----------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O X . . . 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . 4 3 X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O 1 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #124 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:00 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . 2 5 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


IMHO, the proper direction of play is still northward.

The cut is tempting, but due to the aforementioned bad aji, it is no good.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . 2 5 9 0 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 6 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . 7 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X 8 X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . X O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . O 1 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X 3 5 . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If white wants to go eastward, I've got to let him come to me, and I get stronger while defending.
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Post #125 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:35 pm 
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Hmmm...more than 15 hours, and no reply from my honorable opponent. Something must be wrong.

I fear that he may have suffered some kind of seizure when he looked at my move and saw that I did not cut. :)

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Post #126 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:38 pm 
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$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X 7 O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . 2 5 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
later he might not answer this...

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Post #127 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:47 pm 
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$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X 7 O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 8 X X . . . 2 5 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not even surprised any more when my opponent plays aji keshi. :-?

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Post #128 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:34 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X 7 O X . . . . 9 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 8 X X . . . 2 5 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #129 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:19 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X 7 O X . . . . 9 0 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 8 X X . . . 2 5 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Northward, ever northward, all according to plan.

He has pushed east until he forces me to become stronger. Locally, I am now stronger, 2 stones vs 3 stones. My group has twice as many liberties - 6 to 3 - and letting me have the unopposed hane would be unpleasant. So I think he has to go northward again: either the solid extension or the hane.

Also, my prospective corner territory in the lower right is becoming bigger. If I get one spare tenuki to play R5, I am ahead by an almost insurmountable margin.

I expect the game to continue something like this:

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[go]$$Wcm71 He has bad aji at M9
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . 6 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . 3 4 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . T 1 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . C . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Corrected - thanks to Jeromie.

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Post #130 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:24 pm 
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Your numbering was a little off in the last diagram. Here's the corrected version. :D

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[go]$$Wcm61
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X 7 O X . . . . 9 0 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 8 X X . . . 2 5 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X 1 . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

now cut at "a" looks like a threat.
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$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X 1 . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #132 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:37 pm 
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$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X 1 . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


An interesting move by MW. I'm not sure exactly what he intends.
But he is now touching the outlying stones of my northern/central group. I wanted to push him that way, and now that I have done so, the only consistent thing is to counter-hane.
I don't know exactly how this will work - or even if it will work - but I do know that it is thematic.

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Post #133 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:24 pm 
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@Observers:
There are already threats in the air. My tengen stone, although looking weak at first glance, is backed up by G10, H11, and H12, so that it is strong enough to participate in the attack. If he does not reply, I will cut him up like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O B . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . B . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . B . . X O 2 7 . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O 1 3 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . 5 O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O 6 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And white is enclosed and unlikely to find two eyes.

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Post #134 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:54 pm 
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@Joaz
And what do you plan if white does not pass?

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Post #135 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:07 am 
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@Uberdude and other observers:
Uberdude wrote:
@Joaz
And what do you plan if white does not pass?


Continue with the plan, of course. :mrgreen:

As I have mentioned, the plan has been following two proverbs:
1) Push him toward your strength.
2) Make territory while attacking.

Once he allowed H12, my upper/ middle group has been relatively strong. I've been using my lower group to push him against it. ( Proverb #1 )

While doing so, I've been sketching the outline of territory in the lower right corner ( proverb #2 )

If he makes another move, particularly a defensive one like white 3:

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$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X 1 3 . 4 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...then I'll probably continue with something that follows those two proverbs - like black 4.
If white tries to interfere with my land grab on the right side, a fight will probably ensue over there; and during the course of such a fight I hope to find black 4 becoming stronger. Then I'll go back to attacking him.

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Post #136 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:59 am 
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@Obs:
I'm not a fan of :b72:. Joaz said he wants to push white towards his h12 "strength" (I put it in quotes because it is not particularly thick, white g13 is annoying bad aji), but now he plays from the direction of his strength. k10 and l11 are liable to end up heavy and wanting to be sacrificed, so how about tenuki instead, building the outside consistent with his previous moves?
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[go]$$Wcm71
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . 3 . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X 1 . 2 . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't actually like that so much either as the right side is too high and open that the development there is uncertain. I suppose there could be an argument that the hane he played slows white down as he runs out (much like you sometimes cap before falling back to defend a moyo so that you opponent has to slowly run around it), but it feels like forcing white out through a smallish gap. So what might happen with the hane? If white pushes on it and black keeps defending it then white gets out ahead, nice for white. Note that even with :b78: the g13 aji could still be annoying later.
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[go]$$Wcm71
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . 6 7 . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . 2 5 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X 1 3 . 4 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

And if black doesn't defend 72 and treats it lightly (probably better), then we have something like the below which also seems quite comfortable for white. White might also play :w75: as kosumi one to the right here if he feels :b72: is not an important enough stone to push against.
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[go]$$Wcm71
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . 2 5 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . . X 1 3 . 4 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #137 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:58 am 
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Post #138 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:05 am 
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Magicwand wrote:
K11 atari!

Gosh, don't like letting black get the m10 atari to surround, but if black keeps going with 6 then MW plans atari your way to fun and profit?. In which case black would have to back off and let white out.
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$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X k j . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . i f g . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . e 6 h . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . 3 2 c . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . 5 X 1 4 d . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . a b . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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How about just connect:
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[go]$$B
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . W X 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . 2 X O 1 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #140 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:48 am 
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Indeed Ed, that looks good enough for black, seeing as white can't even safely one point jump or black can wedge (unless white wants huge ko). In which case the cap at 5 feels pleasant and postpones g13 worries. This way white has turned black's h12 into a good move (I thought it was probably a bad move).
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[go]$$B
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . 4 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . W X 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . 2 X O 1 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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