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#263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck http://www.lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=13419 |
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Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck |
Almost according to plan, except he hasn't interposed the peep at L5. As planned, I'll let him have it if he really wants it. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:19 pm ] |
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Author: | EdLee [ Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:19 pm ] |
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Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck |
IMHO, the proper direction of play is still northward. The cut is tempting, but due to the aforementioned bad aji, it is no good.
If white wants to go eastward, I've got to let him come to me, and I get stronger while defending. |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:35 pm ] |
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@Observers: Hmmm...more than 15 hours, and no reply from my honorable opponent. Something must be wrong. I fear that he may have suffered some kind of seizure when he looked at my move and saw that I did not cut. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:38 pm ] |
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later he might not answer this... |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:47 pm ] |
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I'm not even surprised any more when my opponent plays aji keshi. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:34 pm ] |
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Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:19 pm ] |
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Northward, ever northward, all according to plan. He has pushed east until he forces me to become stronger. Locally, I am now stronger, 2 stones vs 3 stones. My group has twice as many liberties - 6 to 3 - and letting me have the unopposed hane would be unpleasant. So I think he has to go northward again: either the solid extension or the hane. Also, my prospective corner territory in the lower right is becoming bigger. If I get one spare tenuki to play R5, I am ahead by an almost insurmountable margin. I expect the game to continue something like this:
Corrected - thanks to Jeromie. |
Author: | jeromie [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:24 pm ] |
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Your numbering was a little off in the last diagram. Here's the corrected version.
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Author: | Magicwand [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:09 pm ] |
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now cut at "a" looks like a threat.
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Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:37 pm ] |
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An interesting move by MW. I'm not sure exactly what he intends. But he is now touching the outlying stones of my northern/central group. I wanted to push him that way, and now that I have done so, the only consistent thing is to counter-hane. I don't know exactly how this will work - or even if it will work - but I do know that it is thematic. |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck |
@Observers: There are already threats in the air. My tengen stone, although looking weak at first glance, is backed up by G10, H11, and H12, so that it is strong enough to participate in the attack. If he does not reply, I will cut him up like this:
And white is enclosed and unlikely to find two eyes. |
Author: | Uberdude [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:54 pm ] |
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@Joaz And what do you plan if white does not pass? |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:07 am ] |
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@Uberdude and other observers: Uberdude wrote: @Joaz And what do you plan if white does not pass? Continue with the plan, of course. As I have mentioned, the plan has been following two proverbs: 1) Push him toward your strength. 2) Make territory while attacking. Once he allowed H12, my upper/ middle group has been relatively strong. I've been using my lower group to push him against it. ( Proverb #1 ) While doing so, I've been sketching the outline of territory in the lower right corner ( proverb #2 ) If he makes another move, particularly a defensive one like white 3:
...then I'll probably continue with something that follows those two proverbs - like black 4. If white tries to interfere with my land grab on the right side, a fight will probably ensue over there; and during the course of such a fight I hope to find black 4 becoming stronger. Then I'll go back to attacking him. |
Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:59 am ] |
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@Obs: I'm not a fan of . Joaz said he wants to push white towards his h12 "strength" (I put it in quotes because it is not particularly thick, white g13 is annoying bad aji), but now he plays from the direction of his strength. k10 and l11 are liable to end up heavy and wanting to be sacrificed, so how about tenuki instead, building the outside consistent with his previous moves?
I don't actually like that so much either as the right side is too high and open that the development there is uncertain. I suppose there could be an argument that the hane he played slows white down as he runs out (much like you sometimes cap before falling back to defend a moyo so that you opponent has to slowly run around it), but it feels like forcing white out through a smallish gap. So what might happen with the hane? If white pushes on it and black keeps defending it then white gets out ahead, nice for white. Note that even with the g13 aji could still be annoying later.
And if black doesn't defend 72 and treats it lightly (probably better), then we have something like the below which also seems quite comfortable for white. White might also play as kosumi one to the right here if he feels is not an important enough stone to push against.
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Author: | Magicwand [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:58 am ] |
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K11 atari! |
Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:05 am ] |
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Magicwand wrote: K11 atari! Gosh, don't like letting black get the m10 atari to surround, but if black keeps going with 6 then MW plans atari your way to fun and profit?. In which case black would have to back off and let white out.
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Author: | EdLee [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:15 am ] |
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How about just connect:
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Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:48 am ] |
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Indeed Ed, that looks good enough for black, seeing as white can't even safely one point jump or black can wedge (unless white wants huge ko). In which case the cap at 5 feels pleasant and postpones g13 worries. This way white has turned black's h12 into a good move (I thought it was probably a bad move).
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