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Author: | TelegraphGo [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
This thread will be host to the blind Malkovitch between me and MikeKyle mentioned at https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17050. If there's a better place for this, tell me. The rules are: 1. Players may not look at any hidden posts not addressed explicitly to them. 2. Closed book - neither player may reference databases/AI/etc. to inform their move. 3. We may not ever look at the game on a board. We may only visualize the board from moves written in text form, ex: D4, 10-10. Our comments will be textual as well, of course. (Note to spectators: Please do not include any diagrams/SGFs in comments addressed to us, it would ruin the fun.) 4. If we ever must go back and reread the text for the moves that happened - and we probably will if there is a long gap between play - we will mention it in my hidden comment for the move played. 5. If one of us reaches the point that they feel they can no longer visualize the game, they can declare an early end, pending on audience approval. I'll try not to do this, but I expect that by early endgame it's going to be too hard for me to keep track of everything. In terms of how to give textual notation, I can most easily visualize with number-number (4-16) notation. Here's a map from the letters indexing diagrams to numbers for reference: A = 1 B = 2 C = 3 D = 4 E = 5 F = 6 G = 7 H = 8 J = 9 K = 10 L = 11 M = 12 N = 13 O = 14 P = 15 Q = 16 R = 17 S = 18 T = 19 Unless you have specific preference, let's play an even game, 7.5 komi, Japanese rules. Any further clarifications? If not, pick even/odd before looking in my hidden. Good luck! |
Author: | MikeKyle [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
Thanks so much for setting this up. Onegaishimas /お願いします/ Have a pleasant game. Odd |
Author: | TelegraphGo [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
16-16 |
Author: | MikeKyle [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
4-4 |
Author: | TelegraphGo [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
16-4 |
Author: | MikeKyle [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
4-16 |
Author: | TelegraphGo [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
6-3 |
Author: | EdLee [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:36 pm ] |
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Enjoy! So, only Mike can see the board, yes? Also, not familiar with the digit-digit coödinates system. Used to A1 ... T19. Could one of you please explain which point is 1-1 ? Is it A1 or A19 ? Telegraph: is your first move 16-16 at D16 (top left) or Q16 (top right) ? Post 3 wrote: I want to play in the upper left corner...
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Author: | TelegraphGo [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
Yep, only Mike can see the board. I've been thinking of it as the first digit being the letter, A = 1. By the reference table, we've played Q16, D4, Q4, D16, F3. That should be black on the right and white on the left, with black approaching the bottom left. If Mike shows something different in diagrams, please do tell me so that I don't start yapping on about lefts that look like rights and tops that look like bottoms. Perhaps from now on we should put our moves in both coordinate systems in the plaintext? I doubt it will confuse anyone Oh and that should have said the top right. Whoops! Editing my comment. |
Author: | EdLee [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:53 pm ] |
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Hi Telegraph, thanks. Maybe typo? post 3 wrote: I want to play in the upper left corner...
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Author: | EdLee [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:56 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Diagram! Diagram, for my sanity: |
Author: | MikeKyle [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
I'm going to post this here for reference, but if you object to it being here then please let me know and I'll remove it. To clarify I also intend to not look at a board (except maybe this one.) 3-6 (c6) |
Author: | EdLee [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:41 am ] |
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Spoiler: Diagram! |
Author: | jlt [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
So far I can follow without the diagram @EdLee: I think you should hide the list of moves, since the players are not supposed to re-read the moves that were already played. TelegraphGo wrote: 4. If I ever must go back and reread the text for the moves that happened - and I probably will if there is a long gap between play - I will mention it in my hidden comment for the move I play. Edit: EdLee has just done that. |
Author: | TelegraphGo [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
You're gonna be blind too? I hadn't realized, but that changes my stategy a little Anyways, I guess if we're both not looking at the board, we should both never open any hidden comment without our name on it, so it's not strictly necessary (though mildly amusing) to give a warning that your post has diagrams, as we'll not click on it anyway. 7-6 G-6 |
Author: | MikeKyle [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
14-3 O3 Edit - to include board coordinates, then to correct board coordinates |
Author: | jlt [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
Did you mean O-3? |
Author: | MikeKyle [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
jlt wrote: Did you mean O-3? Thanks, fixed |
Author: | TelegraphGo [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
12-3 M3 |
Author: | MikeKyle [ Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MikeKyle v. TelegraphGo (Blind) |
17-3 R-3 |
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