It is currently Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:51 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 84 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #61 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:38 am 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1360
Liked others: 124
Was liked: 417
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm50
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't know if C8 was better. I chose L13: defend the weakest group while attacking.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #62 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:46 am 
Lives in sente

Posts: 1154
Location: VA, USA
Liked others: 183
Was liked: 93
Rank: KGS 6k
Universal go server handle: hailthorn
This is an interesting situation. Overall I don't feel like I'm playing from behind. I actually feel the opposite. I've got a good framework going. White's move is interesting because I planned to target those stones with my next move. Of course I've got my black stones completely surrounded. If they die that's game. I feel like I should be able to live. I think I'm going to take some time here. My first instinct is G16. J13 seems like another option for me. But if I play J13 I feel like white can divide my stones easily and running isn't really an option given white's position.

_________________
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #63 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:29 am 
Lives in sente

Posts: 1154
Location: VA, USA
Liked others: 183
Was liked: 93
Rank: KGS 6k
Universal go server handle: hailthorn
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm50
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . 2 . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

_________________
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #64 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:47 am 
Honinbo

Posts: 9294
Liked others: 1563
Was liked: 1614
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해
I predict something like this:


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm50
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . 2 . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O C . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 6 4 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . 5 7 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Then black tries to live inside. White's not in danger here, though, there is a cutting point to think about. But white has lots of space in the upper left corner, too..

So I guess I'd expect white to put pressure on black here - threaten to kill. If white kills black, that's great. But otherwise, white'll get stronger on the outside, and can move on to invade on the right and/or bottom when white (probably) gets sente:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm50
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . C . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . C . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . O O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . C . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . C . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White actually has fewer points than I initially imagined - I wonder why that is. Maybe because of the low position in the bottom left?

But I'd say it's still a good game for white given that white can put pressure on these black stones, and have a good center presence, which will help when the game proceeds on the right and bottom.

_________________
be immersed

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #65 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:01 pm 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1360
Liked others: 124
Was liked: 417
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My four stones are a bit thin, I need to strenghten them a bit. After that I'll consider a, b or c, I don't know yet which one.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . a . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . c O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #66 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:54 pm 
Lives in sente

Posts: 1154
Location: VA, USA
Liked others: 183
Was liked: 93
Rank: KGS 6k
Universal go server handle: hailthorn
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . 2 . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

_________________
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #67 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:13 pm 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1360
Liked others: 124
Was liked: 417
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm54
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . 1 . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


That's unexpected. I could cut, get a strong center and let him live a small life.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm54
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 6 . . . . 4 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X 2 1 O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 3 X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


(The above variation is a bit random, it's just to get an idea.)


But that might be too easy for him. Let's try to fight, I don't think I have much to lose.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #68 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:01 pm 
Lives in sente

Posts: 1154
Location: VA, USA
Liked others: 183
Was liked: 93
Rank: KGS 6k
Universal go server handle: hailthorn
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm54
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O 2 . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

_________________
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #69 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:07 pm 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1360
Liked others: 124
Was liked: 417
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm56
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . 1 . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Shape move.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #70 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:17 pm 
Lives in sente

Posts: 1154
Location: VA, USA
Liked others: 183
Was liked: 93
Rank: KGS 6k
Universal go server handle: hailthorn
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm56
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . O . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

_________________
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #71 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:19 pm 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1360
Liked others: 124
Was liked: 417
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm58
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . O . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . 1 O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Cut the stone J13 to get a strong center, make H15 a false eye and thus force him to live, hopefully in gote with 2 points ? I can't read the life and death status of the group. Can he put pressure on G17 to live in sente?

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #72 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:55 pm 
Honinbo

Posts: 9294
Liked others: 1563
Was liked: 1614
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해
Before, it looked like white had to play catch up by invading the right and bottom after getting strength from surrounding. Now, I'm wondering if white will capture.

_________________
be immersed

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #73 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:18 pm 
Lives in sente

Posts: 1154
Location: VA, USA
Liked others: 183
Was liked: 93
Rank: KGS 6k
Universal go server handle: hailthorn
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm58
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . O . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . 2 O X . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

_________________
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #74 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:31 pm 
Lives in sente

Posts: 1154
Location: VA, USA
Liked others: 183
Was liked: 93
Rank: KGS 6k
Universal go server handle: hailthorn
Actually I'm going to go ahead and resign here. My apologies, but thank you for the game.

_________________
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #75 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:21 pm 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1360
Liked others: 124
Was liked: 417
A bit disappointed by the premature ending but thanks for the game, the beginning was interesting nevertheless. And thanks to the viewers for their comments.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #76 Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:33 am 
Honinbo

Posts: 9294
Liked others: 1563
Was liked: 1614
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해
For what it's worth, KataGo on my computer puts the game close to even at this peep:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It is recommending to play here:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . 2 . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



At the time of resignation, it does put black behind by quite a bit. But given the swing that just happened, it's hard to say that a swing like that couldn't happen, again.

Anyway, good game!

_________________
be immersed

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #77 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:40 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 49
Liked others: 64
Was liked: 4
Rank: EGF 1 dan
@Kirby What does Kata think about 52? It is an interesting move that I don't know how to evaluate, but I probably wouldn't play it...

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #78 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 am 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1360
Liked others: 124
Was liked: 417
Katago thinks that :w52: loses about 2 points, and prefers :w52: at G17.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #79 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:24 pm 
Lives in sente

Posts: 1154
Location: VA, USA
Liked others: 183
Was liked: 93
Rank: KGS 6k
Universal go server handle: hailthorn
I had a lot of fun with this game. The problem was I completely misread the move I played. And I had a feeling I had misplayed prior. It's tough because overall I don't think I played terribly in this game per se but at my level of course that's probably outrageous to say.

_________________
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #80 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:22 pm 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 5457
Location: Banbeck Vale
Liked others: 1043
Was liked: 1430
Rank: 1D AGA
GD Posts: 1512
Kaya handle: Test
hailthorn011 wrote:
Actually I'm going to go ahead and resign here...


Does this mean that my game vs drmwc is the last Malkovich game?

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 84 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group