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Offline jlt
 Post subject: Re: jlt v. hailthorn
Post #61 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:38 am 
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$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't know if C8 was better. I chose L13: defend the weakest group while attacking.
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Offline hailthorn011
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Post #62 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:46 am 
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This is an interesting situation. Overall I don't feel like I'm playing from behind. I actually feel the opposite. I've got a good framework going. White's move is interesting because I planned to target those stones with my next move. Of course I've got my black stones completely surrounded. If they die that's game. I feel like I should be able to live. I think I'm going to take some time here. My first instinct is G16. J13 seems like another option for me. But if I play J13 I feel like white can divide my stones easily and running isn't really an option given white's position.

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Post #63 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:29 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . 2 . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
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Post #64 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:47 am 
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I predict something like this:


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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . 2 . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O C . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 6 4 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . 5 7 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Then black tries to live inside. White's not in danger here, though, there is a cutting point to think about. But white has lots of space in the upper left corner, too..

So I guess I'd expect white to put pressure on black here - threaten to kill. If white kills black, that's great. But otherwise, white'll get stronger on the outside, and can move on to invade on the right and/or bottom when white (probably) gets sente:

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . C . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . C . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . O O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . C . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . C . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White actually has fewer points than I initially imagined - I wonder why that is. Maybe because of the low position in the bottom left?

But I'd say it's still a good game for white given that white can put pressure on these black stones, and have a good center presence, which will help when the game proceeds on the right and bottom.

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Offline jlt
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Post #65 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:01 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm52
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My four stones are a bit thin, I need to strenghten them a bit. After that I'll consider a, b or c, I don't know yet which one.

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[go]$$Wcm52
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . a . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . c O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #66 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:54 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . 2 . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #67 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:13 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm54
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . 1 . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


That's unexpected. I could cut, get a strong center and let him live a small life.

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[go]$$Wcm54
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 6 . . . . 4 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X 2 1 O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 3 X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


(The above variation is a bit random, it's just to get an idea.)


But that might be too easy for him. Let's try to fight, I don't think I have much to lose.
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Post #68 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:01 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O 2 . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #69 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:07 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . 1 . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Shape move.
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Post #70 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:17 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . O . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #71 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:19 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . O . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . 1 O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Cut the stone J13 to get a strong center, make H15 a false eye and thus force him to live, hopefully in gote with 2 points ? I can't read the life and death status of the group. Can he put pressure on G17 to live in sente?
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Offline Kirby
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Post #72 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:55 pm 
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Before, it looked like white had to play catch up by invading the right and bottom after getting strength from surrounding. Now, I'm wondering if white will capture.

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Post #73 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:18 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm58
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . O . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . 2 O X . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline hailthorn011
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Post #74 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:31 pm 
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Actually I'm going to go ahead and resign here. My apologies, but thank you for the game.

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Offline jlt
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Post #75 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:21 pm 
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A bit disappointed by the premature ending but thanks for the game, the beginning was interesting nevertheless. And thanks to the viewers for their comments.
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Offline Kirby
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Post #76 Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:33 am 
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For what it's worth, KataGo on my computer puts the game close to even at this peep:

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[go]$$Wcm52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It is recommending to play here:
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[go]$$Wcm52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . 2 . X . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



At the time of resignation, it does put black behind by quite a bit. But given the swing that just happened, it's hard to say that a swing like that couldn't happen, again.

Anyway, good game!

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Offline marvin
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Post #77 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:40 am 
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@Kirby What does Kata think about 52? It is an interesting move that I don't know how to evaluate, but I probably wouldn't play it...
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Offline jlt
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Post #78 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 am 
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Katago thinks that :w52: loses about 2 points, and prefers :w52: at G17.
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Offline hailthorn011
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Post #79 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:24 pm 
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I had a lot of fun with this game. The problem was I completely misread the move I played. And I had a feeling I had misplayed prior. It's tough because overall I don't think I played terribly in this game per se but at my level of course that's probably outrageous to say.

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #80 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:22 pm 
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Actually I'm going to go ahead and resign here...


Does this mean that my game vs drmwc is the last Malkovich game?
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