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Post #81 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:15 pm 
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The textbook shape move looks good to me.
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[go]$$Bcm69
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$$ | . . X . . 2 X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . 4 O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . 5 O . O X . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bcm75
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$$ | . . . , . O O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O 2 O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O 3 1 . O X . . . . . |
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Post #82 Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:13 am 
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Yep, I didn't read far enough and may have missed an opportunity.

I have to think a bit for the next move, I'll try to make it later today.

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Post #83 Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:46 am 
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[go]$$Bcm73
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I hesitated between two variations.

First one:

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$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . 0 . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 O 2 . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . 3 4 . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . 5 O 8 . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . 7 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Second one:

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[go]$$Bcm73
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 X 4 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 6 2 , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


In both cases, White takes gote. The first variation gives more points to Black in exchange for a stronger outside wall, however I don't think I need much influence now so I take the second variation.

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Post #84 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:02 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #85 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:03 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #86 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:21 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #87 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:26 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 O , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #88 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:18 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
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Why not here?

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Post #89 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 11:16 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . 3 O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Huh, I got sente here? Guess will throw that stone, to try and seal the right corner for myself.

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Post #90 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 11:41 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . 2 X O . . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #91 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:41 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X O 3 . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . . . X . . O . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Oh I thought he would play :b81: at N18 to close the corner in sente. Now Black Q18 is not sente.

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Post #93 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:29 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . . . X . . O 3 O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #94 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:09 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . 2 . O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . . . X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #95 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:24 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . 3 . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . . . X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #96 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:31 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . O 2 O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . . . X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #97 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:46 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . . 3 . X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #98 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:00 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . 2 X . X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #99 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:13 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . 3 . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . O X . X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think D6 is "big" for me, but the game seems close, and I need to keep sente for as long as possible, especially considering my opponent answers in a not too aggressive way

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Post #100 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:49 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O e . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . 3 . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . d X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . a . . . . . O O O b . . |
$$ | . O O , . . O X . X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm89 Captures B:0 W:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O 2 . . , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O , . . O X . X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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