I find it to be a good opening to get some quick territory for me. If he doesn't approach one of my corners before move 4, I'll play like this and go into a bit more detail about how I will respond to various moves from him.
every move is good at the opening, but this is my favourite answer to black komoku - my closed side facing his opened side, preventing mini chinese, allowing tasuki (diagonal opening), looking forward to P16 kakari. i mostly expect black komoku or star in the lower right corner, which i will answer with my own komoku or star (not decided yet) in the lower left corner. i also expect early kakari from black
i briefly checked Dusk Eagle's previous games, he seems to have an active, perhaps even aggresive style - it should give me a chance to launch an attack on some weak group he will eventually create. i think we will have much fun.
It's all very speculative at this point, so I don't want to go too deep into variations. I'll just see what he decides to play. Judging by his last game against emeraldemon, I half expect him to play 5-3 in the lower corner.
i choose hoshi, because i feel that komoku would lead to a game black is more familiar with, while i prefer a star point. this allows black to play Kobayashi fuseki, but i believe i can fight Kobayashi and i can also still prevent it by answering black's kakari with a pincer if i want
and i am not even sure black will play the F3 kakari to get Kobayashi, i suspect him to play D15 kakari - i have no reason to be unhappy in such case either, i could get sente to play P16
last move i would consider being black is shimari P17, which i would answer with approaching lower right corner, but i don't think black will play this way
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Perception [ Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:56 pm ]
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Re: 84. Laman (1d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1d)
Laman:
Is there any particular reason you think black won't play p17? It's a pretty common opening.
In my last comment I mentioned playing a high approach to his left-corner stone. I considered it, but decided I would rather play the game like this. I'll save playing that move for another day.
Anyway, he most likely is going to make a high approach to my corner. If he does this, I will simply attach underneath like this:
I think will function as a good extension from both corners, similar in philosophy to the Chinese opening. This way of playing might not be quite as good for him, but I'm really not strong enough to say for certain. I just know I'll feel quite comfortable if the game goes like this.
Edit: Of course, there are a bunch of other moves he could play, including wedging onto my side. If he does that, I plan to try to get a second shimari in the lower-right while pressuring the wedging stone(s). I'll go into more details if he wedges.
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Laman [ Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:05 am ]
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Re: 84. Laman (1d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1d)
Perception:
Perception wrote:
Laman: Is there any particular reason you think black won't play p17? It's a pretty common opening.
well, indeed there is no problem with b P17. i wrote that under impression i got from Dusk Eagle's games - he plays really fast and actively - many kakaris, tenukis, etc. so i think that the shimari would be too slow for him
playing black, i would be ok with P17 - i like to just lay down a strong formation and then wait and see how opponent will handle it
anyway, perhaps i should not have written predictions about my opponent moves from the very beginning, i can't say i would really know Dusk Eagle or his playing style
perhaps he will write something about his choice with the next move or you could ask him if not, then we could see if i was correct or not
EDIT: before i submitted this, Dusk Eagle played and just his move. previous paragraph still applies
my most common approach to komoku and if i recall correctly, also the most common move in this situation. there are more possible moves for black now (at least R5, Q8, R7) and i don't have much time now, so i will write more with next move
Most of the times when I play this opening, my opponents seem to like to wedge in on the right side. However, Laman's move appears much more common in the pro games I've seen with this opening, when black has a 3-4 stone in the lower-right corner.
Anyway, I have an option here of whether to pincer or attach underneath. Attaching underneath seems like a simple way of play that is just fine for me. I could pincer, but it's not really the way I set out to play. In this game, I'd rather just play like this.
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Jedo [ Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:49 am ]
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Re: 84. Laman (1d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1d)
Just wanted to say I'm really looking forward to this game
where 3 is a probe which then allows white to choose optimal continuation depending on black's answer. too bad i don't remmember the continuation - and in situations like this i usually can't find the correct move myself. but luckily there is another possiblity - to play my actual moves. there are many answers for black now, so i can't really predict how will it continue:
black can choose a to play small avalanche, b to play large avalanche or simpler moves like c or d, which would make me satisfied, giving black corner territory for a small white wall facing my hoshi
The first was the simple extension. I figured white would follow it up with - - . After this, my right side feels a bit flat and I feel like white will be developing faster than me, so I decided not to play this way.
The next possible variation is the simple connection below:
then black can choose from several branches. i don't have deeply knowledge of small avalanche, but i like turn-based games (if not for other reasons) because they make me study joseki and i remember them at least for some following time.
my stones would face the opposite direction than i intended at the beginning, but it is ok, as it still keeps the overall ballance - my stones face black shimari, black stones face my star, so a and b are pretty much miai (with exception that black a has better continuation than white b).
Dusk Eagle: you are too fast . i will have to go to the bed soon. by the way, where are you from? (i ask mainly for a timezone, to know when you sleep )
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Dusk Eagle [ Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:52 pm ]
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Re: 84. Laman (1d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1d)
Well, it was a pretty obvious move, so when I saw that you replied, I decided there was no reason to wait to post my move. I'm from Waterloo, Ontario (EST, GMT+5) but being a university student my sleep schedule can be pretty messed up. Some days I'll sleep from 7pm to 2am, other days from 5am to 1pm . Plus, it's exam period right now, so a lot of my day is spent just sitting at my desk, so when I see that you've responded I can generally check right away.
hmm, i was deciding between this move and O3 (one point below), but this should be a better. one possible outcome i have already showed in Move 12, Diagram 2, another is this one:
Anyway, I had to choose between two options for this move. Often when I'm playing a Malkovich game I reach a point where I wish I could just fork the game, as multiple sequences seem very interesting. The sequence I didn't play goes like this:
The game would probably unfold like this (most of these moves are forced, I think) and I would try to profit from playing a pincer around 'a' rather soon. The game would get complicated, but that's fine by me.
However, I have a gut feeling playing like this might be slightly better:
After this, I will probably play around 'a', looking to make a very big area which will he will feel forced to reduce.
It'd be interesting to know which of these variations is actually better in this situation (if either). I had actually finished this whole writeup from the perspective of playing the other sequence, but I decided against it before posting. If you're reading this, feel free to post how you would play (either one of these two variations or something else entirely). It doesn't really matter how strong you are, it'd still be interesting to read what others think about this position once the game is done.
below, and see if I can play like this instead:
). If he does, the following might unfold:
or 'a'), I will play at 
below.
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. After this, my right side feels a bit flat and I feel like white will be developing faster than me, so I decided not to play this way.
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. Plus, it's exam period right now, so a lot of my day is spent just sitting at my desk, so when I see that you've responded I can generally check right away.