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Author: | Kirby [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
The last game had mistakes by both sides. I can't help but feel it was a teaching game, so I wouldn't feel right taking 2 stones just yet. I hope he lets me have it this game. Have a good game, Magicwand. Please try to hurt me... ![]() |
Author: | Magicwand [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
gg will try something new that he is not familiar with. |
Author: | Kirby [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
Too excited to make a move. This is gonna be awesome. ![]() |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
As best I can tell, we're not running low on numbers. ![]() |
Author: | judicata [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
Joaz Banbeck wrote: As best I can tell, we're not running low on numbers. ![]() People never appreciate the scarcity of things until they are gone. magicwand: Either before or after Kirby's move, could you post how you would approach the corner white just played in? Or whether you would at all? |
Author: | Magicwand [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
judicata wrote: magicwand: Either before or after Kirby's move, could you post how you would approach the corner white just played in? Or whether you would at all? this is what i expect..but he might not play star point. what i want is to make him uncomfortable. and try to make white influence game. (it is more comfortable that way) i met someone who actually play that opening and beat me badly when i was about kirby's strength. it is actually pretty good opening.
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Author: | Aphelion [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
Magicwand: What about this?
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Author: | Magicwand [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
Aphelion wrote: Magicwand: What about this?
i probably play as below
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Author: | robinz [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
This already looks like it's going to be fun to watch ![]() ![]() |
Author: | cdybeijing [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
Magicwand's Malkovich games are by far the highlight of L19x19 for me. The series with Kirby has been particularly enjoyable. |
Author: | Kirby [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
His move is very interesting. Actually, I have never seen it before. I have heard that "getting closed in" is bad. I think Araban recently said that it was second worse to dying. If I play closer to the corner, it seems that I get "closed in"... So let's see what happens with this move. ![]() |
Author: | Magicwand [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
i love his creativity. he is getting stronger very rapidly IMO. |
Author: | Kirby [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
I don't know if everyone recalls the first game that I played against Magicwand. If I recall, it went something like this (maybe some moves are slightly different, but this is the general gist of the first part):
When the game reached the point above, I thought a lot about what move to make. Should I play a one space jump on the side, or should I try to pincer? At the time, I felt that I had enough influence at the bottom that pincering would be beneficial for me. So I played something like this:
I thought, "Hey, I should break white up". Well in this board position, things are a little similar locally. He is approaching me on the 4th line - probably he wants influence since I asked for him to try to hurt me... ![]() So I could consider pincering like before:
But if I know Magicwand, he will use my pincer to try to attack me. Jumping up is semi-sente since I do not want to get sealed in. So I would imagine this kind of progression:
Maybe this is a little bit of a loose attack, but in any case, it's quite easy to make the marked black stone a target. What about a closer pincer?
Well, I am just putting down moves. There could be many possibilities, of course, but white can dictate the flow of the game. So what if I respond by simply taking the follow-up to his "sente jump" first?
Well, one possibile continuation is this:
Wait a second... We're back to the position from before (if I pincered with ![]() ![]() But There is a difference between playing ![]() ![]() ![]()
In other words, I have some flexibility with this move. I can decide what to do IF he jumps. I do not have to commit to a move. But he will probably not jump out. He might play in a basic way:
But if he does that, it's an easy game for me. He might do something different. But he cannot control the entire left side with only one move. So I should wait to see how he plays - and then be flexible and adjust. --- People always nail me for being inconsistent. Am I inconsistent, yet? I don't think so, at least. The real battle is yet to come, once he decides where to play next. The temperature is rising... And I look forward to it. ![]() |
Author: | Magicwand [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
mix different approach to see what is in his mind.. |
Author: | Kirby [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
I would like to play more actively. For example, it would be nice to pincer his stone. But I feel that I would lose out locally if I play that way:
I thought about "a" through "d" in this scenario for black, but nothing looks that good. White seems to benefit. I also thought briefly about capping... But that does not seem to make sense at this point in the game:
So, I will be patient and wait a bit longer. The stakes are getting higher. But I will wait to see what he is thinking. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
probe. to see how he react to my semi attack... |
Author: | mw42 [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
I personally find this game ridiculous. I am very interested to see it progress. I don't know if this should be hidden (all but Kirby can read, I suppose)... I think MW's strategy is very psychological -- play unusual moves and outread the weaker opponent in the unfamiliar position. |
Author: | Phelan [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
mw42 wrote: I think MW's strategy is very psychological -- play unusual moves and outread the weaker opponent in the unfamiliar position. I was just going to post that half of MW's moves seem to be probes. :p |
Author: | Puppycakes [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
I tend to think that many moves are asking questions and seeing how the opponent responds. You want a good answer to any of their answers, but you want to ask them difficult questions and take advantage when their answer isn't correct. |
Author: | Kirby [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles |
thought 'bout cappin', MW-style:
to bad fur me, but I feel too weake with that kinda connectoin (a & b). jumping out just 1 space seems ok, but then he can switch to attack my stone on the left. why not set his stone in motion first (he may ignore)??? |
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