Life In 19x19 :: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

Normally, I would play something like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 4 O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X 2 1 7 . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . 5 3 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

and fight through it... Or maybe this:

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But I don't think that these sequences match the way I've been playing. I have been experimenting with a territorial opening, so it'd be weird to mix it up with something that tries to get outside stones for influence. The last diagram that I made, above, is particularly weird in this sense.

So what's a territorial way to play?

Something like this, I'd say:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 3 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Yeah, white'll get some influence. I'll do my best to stomp on it when I get the chance. Meanwhile, I'll cash in.

Author:	Chew Terr [ Thu May 05, 2011 9:41 am ]
Post subject:	120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] So, I just finished a Malkovich, and was exhausted/frayed from it, but then Kirby offered me a game, and I couldn't turn him down. There's something terribly wrong with me. =D I've been playing exclusively handicap games lately, so Kirby was kind enough to agree to an even game. I know it's presumptive of me, as I know my opponent's stronger than myself, but he sounded fine with it, so let's do it. Komi's 6.5, and comments are closed. That thing where you pick colors with by guessing 'odd' or 'even': :black: (totally odd) .

Author:	Kirby [ Thu May 05, 2011 9:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
I guessed "odd", but I saw that you wrote "odd". Was I supposed to hide a number, or do I go first?

Author:	Chew Terr [ Thu May 05, 2011 11:00 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Nah, you guessed right, so you get to play first (or choose to play second).

Author:	Kirby [ Thu May 05, 2011 11:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Thanks. Have a good game. Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] I feel like playing a different opening than I usually do.

Author:	Chew Terr [ Thu May 05, 2011 11:40 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Sweet, I used to love playing 3-3 openings. I'm eager to see how yours develops. I'm tempted to play one of my own, but it's not necessarily in white's best interest to play too similarly to black, since black gets the initiative. Regardless, I blame this stone/opening on Topazg, who's been playing it against me too much lately. Aside from seeing it lately and learning about it from getting stomped by it, I think that this is reasonable here. I can hit the top right star point for influence later, which goes well with this top, outward-facing stone. If he develops the 3-3 with something like O16 before I get there, I can take my own efficient enclosure. It doesn't make me necessarily more efficient, but at least that would keep up. And there are lots of fun options, like taishamess. Curious if my opponent will play cross or adjacent corners. As people tend to play more silly, unorthodox openings in Malkovich games (count the number of tengen openings: a handful out of only 120?), I bet my opponent will play diagonal in the bottom left. Regardless, either is fine with me. This looks a bit like we're playing a standard game on a board with two shorter legs.

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120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?) http://www.lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=3801	Page 1 of 7

Author:	EdLee [ Thu May 05, 2011 1:51 pm ]
Post subject:
Good game, Kirby and Chew.

Author:	Kirby [ Thu May 05, 2011 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] I'll see how long I can stay consistent. Am I still consistent? I played this corner because his top left stone is just itchin to be approached.

Author:	EdLee [ Thu May 05, 2011 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:	opening
Hidden until the opening is finished, Interesting -- at least 3 pro games with this opening, from 2000, 1960, and 1933 (Go Seigen was B, Kitani Minoru was W).

Author:	Kirby [ Thu May 05, 2011 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
How many moves makes an opening?

Author:	EdLee [ Thu May 05, 2011 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:
Kirby wrote: How many moves makes an opening? If each corner gets something like the large avalanche with over 40 moves, (probably not applicable here ) we're looking at 160+ moves.

Author:	Chew Terr [ Tue May 10, 2011 7:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Very sorry for the delay! Been a busy few days! Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 4 . . . \| $$ \| . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Okay, so I'm going a bit more for influence and my opponent is going for more direct territory. I do not yet know how to handle influence well, but I want to learn, so this is a good time to try to practice. It would not be unreasonable for my opponent to play a low approach on the left (C16), in which case, the taisha kind of appeals... I DO have the ladder. On a side note, the cross positions seem a bit harder for an influence game, because I can't make quite as huge of a framework/position, but I don't think it'll be that big of a difference. If I can hit one of the two 4-4s on top of my opponent's stone, I'll have a hefty amount of central power, and will get to play as such.

Author:	Kirby [ Tue May 10, 2011 9:22 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Why not? It can't be that bad of a move...

Author:	Chew Terr [ Tue May 10, 2011 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] If the top right was a 4-4 and was mine, I would play this high. The bottom left corner develops a bit slowly, so the bottom is a bit more boring, so there's no reason to pincer to mess with it.

Author:	Kirby [ Tue May 10, 2011 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . 7 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Just ridin' the wave for now.

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Author:	Chew Terr [ Wed May 11, 2011 12:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Not a ton of comment here, sorry. I love this move, so I'm playing it because it seems reasonable. If I'm reading the right ladder, I have it, so it's not unsupported. I should probably not start huge fights while exhausted, but meh, I don't see any way this will turn out atrociously.

Author:	topazg [ Wed May 11, 2011 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
I'm not sure he's reading out the right ladder: Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm9 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . 4 O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . X 2 1 . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . 8 6 3 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . 7 O W B . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . 9 W W B . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . W B . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . W W B . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . B W W B . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . B . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Author:	Kirby [ Wed May 11, 2011 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
If it were a blitz game, I'd play here: Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . X , B . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] But I guess I should consider my options. Malkovich isn't blitz, after all (though sometimes I play it that way... :-p).

Author:	Kirby [ Wed May 11, 2011 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Normally, I would play something like this: Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . 4 O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . X 2 1 7 . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . 5 3 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] and fight through it... Or maybe this: Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 11 @ 'a' $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . 4 O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . 0 X 2 1 . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . 8 6 3 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . 9 7 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] But I don't think that these sequences match the way I've been playing. I have been experimenting with a territorial opening, so it'd be weird to mix it up with something that tries to get outside stones for influence. The last diagram that I made, above, is particularly weird in this sense. So what's a territorial way to play? Something like this, I'd say: Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . 3 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Yeah, white'll get some influence. I'll do my best to stomp on it when I get the chance. Meanwhile, I'll cash in.

Author:	Kirby [ Wed May 11, 2011 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
After about 30 seconds, I'm having second thoughts. I kind of like this picture: Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . O X O X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Unfortunately, I could only see how much I liked it after I saw the diagram picture. In ascii it looked kind of crappy. I've already moved, though. I think that my move is still OK. But maybe this one I posted here isn't that bad for black, either.

Author:	Kirby [ Wed May 11, 2011 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Hmm, after looking again, maybe this: Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . O X O X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] is not great. If my bottom left stone were a 4-4 stone, then I'd like it better.