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 Post subject: Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Post #241 Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:55 am 
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Kirby wrote:
No getting past you, huh? Thanks for playing. I resign.

I'm a bit surprised by this, but thank you for an interesting game, and my apologies for several long delays.

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Post #242 Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:43 pm 
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tj86430 wrote:
@Loons:
Loons wrote:
I am interested in seeing some of your variations here.

I will try to post some later today.

I'm not sure if this is still relevant, and I don't have all the variations I read any more, but here are some of my thoughts:

Basically, a and b below are miai:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X . , X . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X X O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . O O O O X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X X O . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . O O O . O X . O . O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . X . O O X . . . X X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X . , O X X X . X X O X |
$$ | a . O . . . X O O O X O . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O b X . . . X X X X O . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I thought this is white's strongest response:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X . , X . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X X O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . O O O O X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X X O . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . O O O . O X . O . O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . X . O O X . . . X X . |
$$ | 3 O X X . X . X . , O X X X . X X O X |
$$ | 2 . O . . . X O O O X O . . . X O O . |
$$ | 4 O 1 X . . . X X X X O . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This one you saw already:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X . , X . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X X O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . O O O O X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X X O . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 O X X . O O O . O X . O . O . . |
$$ | . X 1 2 . . . . X . O O X . . . X X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X . , O X X X . X X O X |
$$ | . . O . . . X O O O X O . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X X X X O . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No room for eyes:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X . , X . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X X O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . O O O O X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X X O . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . O O O . O X . O . O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . X . O O X . . . X X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X . , O X X X . X X O X |
$$ | 1 . O 3 . . X O O O X O . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O 2 X 4 . . X X X X O . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


a and b are still miai.:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X . , X . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X X O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . O O O O X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X X O . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . O O O . O X . O . O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . X . O O X . . . X X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X . , O X X X . X X O X |
$$ | a . O 1 3 . X O O O X O . . . X O O . |
$$ | . O b X 2 4 . X X X X O . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #243 Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:45 pm 
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I read all the comments, and I thank everyone who took the time to comment. There were several very interesting and instructive points made. :bow:

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