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Author:  Kirby [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Magicwand and I will play at two stones.

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I've lost before by more, but last time we played at 2 stones, I think I lost by 1.5 points. I won't make that mistake this time.

I am going to go all out.

Author:  tj86430 [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

:clap:

Author:  EdLee [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:26 pm ]
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Fight! :D Good game to both.
The obligatory hidden post. :) I predict:
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Author:  Magicwand [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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when i played strong amature from kiwon he played that high opening.
i will try that on kirby and see how he will react.

Author:  Kirby [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Meh, if he can play that way, I can, too!

Author:  Chew Terr [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Kirby:
Exactly the move I hoped to see! Keep your spirits up! You and I both seem to perform several stones better when we're feeling confident. Don't avoid complications, and play a handicap game that Kageyama would be pleased to see!

Author:  Kirby [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Chew Terr wrote:
Kirby:
Exactly the move I hoped to see! Keep your spirits up! You and I both seem to perform several stones better when we're feeling confident. Don't avoid complications, and play a handicap game that Kageyama would be pleased to see!


@Chew:
Thanks, Chew. Yes, I do think that emotions play a role in the game. I will try to remain confident. :-) I think that you play better when you are confident, as well. :-)

The paradox is, if I play well, I wonder if my opponent is trying. If I play poorly, then, well, I'm playing poorly. :-)

Either way, I'm looking forward to this game. I hope that a complicated situation arises.

Author:  Chew Terr [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Kirby wrote:
Chew Terr wrote:
Kirby:
Exactly the move I hoped to see! Keep your spirits up! You and I both seem to perform several stones better when we're feeling confident. Don't avoid complications, and play a handicap game that Kageyama would be pleased to see!


@Chew:
Thanks, Chew. Yes, I do think that emotions play a role in the game. I will try to remain confident. :-) I think that you play better when you are confident, as well. :-)

The paradox is, if I play well, I wonder if my opponent is trying. If I play poorly, then, well, I'm playing poorly. :-)

Either way, I'm looking forward to this game. I hope that a complicated situation arises.


Kirby:
Don't fall the trap of discounting your victories. MW is not the sort to take it easy on ANYONE, and if he played without thinking, that's still a totally real mistake, just the same as any other misread.


Magicwand:
I look forwards to seeing your play! I've been messing around more with influence and aji, and your play seems like a great way to learn more. Enjoy the game!

Author:  jts [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

@kirby
just remember... stay focused!

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Author:  Magicwand [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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hum...i guess kirby is having fun.. :)

Author:  EdLee [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:01 pm ]
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Tenuki, tenuki! :)
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Author:  Kirby [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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I think the fuseki is a tricky part of the game of go. You have to figure out what you think is big.

I don't want to give Magicwand the "flow", so I will approach his corner, just as he approached mine.

Author:  Magicwand [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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when i played 3 stone handy i was afraid to play the corner becasue of fear of his influence growing.
i guess kirby is not afraid.. he has more guts than i do i guess.

Author:  Kirby [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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I don't know these josekis that well, but who cares about joseki? I want to play this move, because it feels natural. I want to help my corner stone, and grab territory. This feels like the correct move.

Author:  mw42 [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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If it goes likes this, where would you play? I like (c), but (b) also looks nice to me.

Author:  Magicwand [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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suggest me sequence if you know whole joseki.
i will accept until i am not satisfied.

below is not too bad..but i dont like giving up sente.
i will try to get sente and attack lower left corner.
so i choose to play more complicated joseki.
(i used to know whole joseki but not now.. i will make them up as i play..)
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Author:  Kirby [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Alas, I do not know this joseki. :-)
Of course, I know this joseki! But I won't be giving you any easy answers.

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Author:  mw42 [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

@Kirby
You should have played mind games with Magicwand -- something like "of course I know this joseki, but I won't be giving you any easy answers!"

Author:  Kirby [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

@mw42: Thanks, I updated it.

Author:  Magicwand [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Cute!
Kirby wrote:
Alas, I do not know this joseki. :-)
Of course, I know this joseki! But I won't be giving you any easy answers.

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