It is currently Tue May 14, 2024 7:24 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 180 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 9  Next
Author Message
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #21 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:23 am 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
below is what i hoped.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

below is what i think is going to happen
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . |
$$ | . . 3 O . . . . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 2 8 X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 7 5 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

below is what i would play if i was black..but i dont think it fits my opponent's style.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O , 3 . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


my pincer is not what i first drew in my head.. actually it was a misread of other pincer.. :-?
but it is a playable joseki so no harm done... i see my opponent being very careful about his next move. (my move usually takes few second)
what i feel about above three diag..
first two are joseky and played by professionals many many times.
but i feel it favors white. that is why i like third diag that uses the power of your first move effectively.
does anyone else feel like i do?

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"

Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #22 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:23 am 
Judan

Posts: 6725
Location: Cambridge, UK
Liked others: 436
Was liked: 3719
Rank: UK 4 dan
KGS: Uberdude 4d
OGS: Uberdude 7d
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I decided I had done enough thinking and should move, after all Magicwand will probably do something bonkers anyway! In the end the choice was c14 or c6. I decided c14 was trying to be a bit too fancy and c6 is fine. I'll probably go for the hane at g4 if he attaches at f4 as I want sente for r5, and I think it's ok to play that old joseki that's now considered a little bad in exchange for getting sente.

P.S did anyone read my novel, should I keep writing that level of detail?

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #23 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:31 am 
Oza
User avatar

Posts: 2644
Liked others: 304
Was liked: 631
Rank: kgs 6k
@uberdude

I obviously can't demand that you write so much excellent material for every move, but I read your novel and found it to be of the highest quality. This is shaping up to be the best Malkovich game ever.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #24 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:39 am 
Lives with ko

Posts: 200
Liked others: 38
Was liked: 27
Rank: IGS 2d+
KGS: venkman, M2Brett1
I liked the novel.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #25 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:39 am 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1810
Liked others: 490
Was liked: 365
Rank: KGS 1-dan
Uberdude may read this : )

Uberdude wrote:
P.S did anyone read my novel, should I keep writing that level of detail?


Yes! Please! =)
It's highly educational how (and under which aspects) you approach different situations and positions and how far you consider moves!

_________________
My "guide" to become stronger in Go

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #26 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:53 am 
Judan
User avatar

Posts: 5539
Location: Banbeck Vale
Liked others: 1104
Was liked: 1456
Rank: 1D AGA
GD Posts: 1512
Kaya handle: Test
@Uberdude:
Uberdude wrote:
...

P.S did anyone read my novel, should I keep writing that level of detail?


YES!

_________________
Help make L19 more organized. Make an index: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5207

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #27 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:24 am 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 1206
Liked others: 51
Was liked: 192
Rank: KGS 5d
KGS: Str1fe, Midorisuke
Magicwand
I think the first one definitely favors white and the second one is close to even. I don't know what to think about the third diagram.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #28 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:11 pm 
Lives in gote
User avatar

Posts: 353
Liked others: 36
Was liked: 14
Rank: German 1k
KGS: 1.Dan
OGS: 4k
Universal go server handle: Celebrir
Uberdude,

Uberdude wrote:
P.S did anyone read my novel, should I keep writing that level of detail?


Every detail is wanted ! It is already nice to see a game between two good players. To get information why they did a move in such a detailed way is even greater !

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #29 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:17 pm 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
F4. Nothing fancy yet. Same old joseki.

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"

Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #30 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:22 pm 
Lives in gote
User avatar

Posts: 502
Location: Coloradao USA
Liked others: 50
Was liked: 12
Rank: malk-5k
KGS: go1986
this is the greatest game commentary i ever read in my whole entire life
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

_________________
standing still means going backwards

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #31 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:04 pm 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1378
Location: wHam!lton, Aotearoa
Liked others: 253
Was liked: 105
@Magicwand
This double approach might get really complicated, eh. Are you going to aim for a simple result? Considering you were initially expecting straightforward joseki.

_________________
Revisiting Go - Study Journal
My Programming Blog - About the evolution of my go bot.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #32 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:40 pm 
Judan

Posts: 6725
Location: Cambridge, UK
Liked others: 436
Was liked: 3719
Rank: UK 4 dan
KGS: Uberdude 4d
OGS: Uberdude 7d
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 8 . . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Some other possibilites in my mind. If I take the corner directly and he blocks at c4 and the makes extension around c9 then what happens if I cut (there is a question of whether white should play :w12: at :w14: directly without losing a liberty):

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm9 White blocks to left
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O 6 O . . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 3 4 X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm17 Cut
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 8 9 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 6 7 . a . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O O 1 4 O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X 5 . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not sure who I prefer above. Another idea is to play the hane and then extend rather than dodge to the corner (attach at d3 is a similar idea). This is quite a complicated joseki:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm9 Complex joseki
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 6 . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 9 . 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 0 O 1 . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 3 X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Next black could play a to develop on both sides, and white plays b to which blacks comes out with the empty triangle at c. Another idea is to develop the lower side with d-e-f which allows white to play on the left side, but black still has useful aji if white cuts at c7 or pincers to attack the group as a whole.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm19 Complex joseki part 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . e . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 2 . O d . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X c f . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . 1 b . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #33 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:42 pm 
Honinbo

Posts: 9545
Liked others: 1600
Was liked: 1711
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해
Shaddy wrote:
Magicwand
I think the first one definitely favors white ...


Why?

_________________
be immersed

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #34 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:19 pm 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 1206
Liked others: 51
Was liked: 192
Rank: KGS 5d
KGS: Str1fe, Midorisuke
Kirby wrote:
Shaddy wrote:
Magicwand
I think the first one definitely favors white ...


Why?


Well, that "joseki" sucks for black, for one, 'cause White's got all kinds of nasty ways to follow up on it. And White's got this nice reducing stone right where Black's 3-4 stone wants to make territory, while White has a reasonable shape on the left.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #35 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:25 pm 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
Loons wrote:
@Magicwand
This double approach might get really complicated, eh. Are you going to aim for a simple result? Considering you were initially expecting straightforward joseki.

i don't see any complications. Infact i welcome complications

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"

Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #36 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:44 am 
Lives in gote
User avatar

Posts: 502
Location: Coloradao USA
Liked others: 50
Was liked: 12
Rank: malk-5k
KGS: go1986
The suspense is killing me :ugeek:

_________________
standing still means going backwards

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #37 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:21 pm 
Judan

Posts: 6725
Location: Cambridge, UK
Liked others: 436
Was liked: 3719
Rank: UK 4 dan
KGS: Uberdude 4d
OGS: Uberdude 7d
Still thinking...

My latest thoughts. As I said previously I'm reluctant to play g4 and then take corner as it makes white thick. If I take the corner directly and white e3 I will be happy. But I don't like it if he c4. One possible sequence is:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm9 Black gives white a wall and takes territory
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O 4 O 0 . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 3 5 X 6 9 . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 7 8 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


When white extends to c10 (or thereabouts) this works nicely with d16 to develop the left side. I'm not loving this for black.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm19 Contd..
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O O O . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X O X 2 . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If the board was like this I would like this varaition as black is trying to develop the right side so white getting a strong group poking out is nice, and the top left corner is a white stone so black's wall is less effective.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm6 Example of good direction for this joseki
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 6 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 9 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm16 Example of good direction for this joseki contd.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 7 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 6 5 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #38 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:20 pm 
Lives in gote

Posts: 653
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
Liked others: 54
Was liked: 216
Uberdude wrote:
Still thinking...


4 days for move #9 and still not decided?

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #39 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:24 pm 
Tengen

Posts: 4380
Location: North Carolina
Liked others: 499
Was liked: 733
Rank: AGA 3k
GD Posts: 65
OGS: Hyperpape 4k
He's known for playing quite slowly on OGS,and the two of them have played there before.

Besides, there's so much fun for psychological games--how will Magicwand react?

_________________
Occupy Babel!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 149. Uberdude vs Magicwand
Post #40 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:41 pm 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
Uberdude: take much time as you like.
drop me a mail when you play next move so i dont check this thread everyday.
i am playing multiple ogs and dgs games so i dont really mind.
i can not understand what he is thinking. it should be simple joseki.

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"

Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 180 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 9  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group