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 Post subject: 153. Simba vs OtakuViking
Post #1 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:03 am 
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I'll be playing as black with no komi in this game.

Best of luck, Kamo :) , have a nice game.

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I've been mostly away from go from August, so my rank hasn't gone up as much as I wanted, but playing a game or two here and there when I feel the mood striking. Hopefully a game like this should help focus my attention and such :) . My opponent is 1k/1d on Tygem which is quite intimidating, he says 2k KGS but he plays mostly free games. Ah well, hopefully won't get too badly beaten :D ...

Planning to play dual 4-4s as ever :) . I'm getting stronger at fighting so will happily take the battle to him if needs be. Have fun watching!

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Post #2 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:30 am 
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Have a good game Simba:)


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Post #3 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:47 am 
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Post #4 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:08 am 
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Let's try not to be too boring, shall we? :)))

I considered playing the mokuhazushi in the other direction, then press down for a wall, but I don't want to play that game. If he approaches, I will try some kind of pincer I think.

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Post #5 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:25 am 
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Considered approaching the 3-4, but I don't like this kind of thing:

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Now white has a huge move available at 'a', and I'm pincered, so kind of need to respond up there. There's no guarantee I'll finish that in sente, so I need to approach the 3-5 first I think.

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Post #6 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:45 am 
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If he avoids taisha I will try to use the wall by approaching lower right 4-4 or extending, probably extend, but white feels a bit slow just extending I think. If he connects above in the taisha because he has the ladder, white gets fine profit in exchange for black influence. If he plays normal taisha...well let's see what happens?


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Post #7 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:19 am 
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You only live once... ;)

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:17 am 
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No need to hesitate here, this is what I thought would happen. Let's see how black wants to play.

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Post #9 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:20 am 
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As expected :) . Now how complicated do I want to make this... I have the ladder, so might just stick with getting some nice influence - that works well with my 4-4 stones.

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Post #10 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:39 am 
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Diagram seems to get messed up if I use 10 for some reason :o

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You use 0 instead of 10.

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Yeah :) you have to change the number after the 'Bcm' thing (so you could put Wcm10 and then the number '10' would come up on your move if you put it in as '1'. I've changed it to Bcm11 now (you can click to show my diagram's code then copy that for your move, using a 2 for move 12 :) . Also when it gets up to 20, I think using 0 will work.

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Thanks, It seems to work now :)


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Post #16 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:27 am 
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Post #17 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:28 am 
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Post #18 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:07 am 
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I'm not entirely sure what the standard format is for captured stones; I put a '1' next to B now at the bottom, let's go with that meaning I've captured 1 stone unless you have an objection :) .

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Post #19 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:59 am 
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Post #20 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:20 am 
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Why does black need to capture with 17 when he can just ladder the w stone if it ever moves? If w does e6 and cuts f5 black can just respond. I tend to leave things like this and think it is maybe a weakness of mine. I would have played c15.

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