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155: Magicwand vs. mw42
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Author:  mw42 [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:36 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  Magicwand [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:42 am ]
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S16
Author:  mw42 [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:57 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  Magicwand [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:50 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i think i am ahead in points.... i think i can finish him if i live in the corner.
Author:  mw42 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:27 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  Magicwand [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:13 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  mw42 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:10 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  Celebrir [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:43 pm ]
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Is M13 a good move now ? Seems like a good reduction of blacks moyo
Author:  Shaddy [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:01 pm ]
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The corner isn't alive yet...
Author:  illluck [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:32 pm ]
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Corner isn't alive, but it's ko, so I think it's not big to play. I personally feel like black shouldn't have responded at P18.

I'm also not sure if M13 is bigger than Q8.
Author:  Celebrir [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:04 pm ]
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I agree with illuck that ko is enough in the corner. My thought about Q8 was, that if W gets cout there I would probe with S4. In all variation I read a good result is possible for B. But maybe W should play S4 now to decide between Q8 and M13 ?
Author:  Magicwand [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:09 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  mw42 [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42
Sorry, I've been forgetting about this game.
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  Magicwand [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:21 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X 8 . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  mitsun [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:19 pm ]
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B needs to be careful here, given the W strength surrounding the corner:
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . 2 X 5 . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X 1 3 . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . 4 . . 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  mw42 [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:26 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm not sure if this is a proper move to defend my corner, but that my corner needs defending is certain so we shall see.
Author:  Magicwand [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:14 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

game is over...
i know that my opponent is strong as me. not much different in closed reading.
but...it is suddle difference in global reading that differentiate him and me.

you know you are ahead when you have more points and more influence.
Author:  mw42 [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:54 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 9 . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Author:  tj86430 [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42
I think move #79 (not #70) should follow #78
Author:  Magicwand [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42
R19
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