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 Post subject: Re: #158 - topazg vs speedchase
Post #121 Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:12 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 9 . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think the hane leaves me too thin, so let's see if I get pushed satisfactorily into Black's territory - I don't think F11 works all that well as a net because of his own weaknesses in shape, so I don't think he can stop me pushing through ... we'll see :)

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Post #122 Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:23 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . 1 . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


still trying not to die.

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Post #123 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:24 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . 1 . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . 2 . , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #124 Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:47 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O . , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X 3 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sorry That took so long, I've been kinda busy lately.
I need to not get surrounded. This is really bad

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Post #125 Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:29 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O 4 , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X 3 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Protecting the cut is quite important now, but he can't do it just yet I think

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Post #126 Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:46 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Necessary. On the bright side, I think I can connect my groups now.

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Post #127 Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:17 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Great, now I'm in :) The game's getting close to another count now

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Post #128 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:48 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


sorry about the delay again

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Post #129 Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:41 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No problem :)

Ok, my big central crawling dragon hasn't got too much to worry about now, but there are some hefty points left. Firstly, I'm pretty sure there's some weakness in my lower left that can be exploited with a couple of cuts, and I'm half tempted to play B2 as I think it's both going to have points value (fixing the cut / cut issue) and threaten to connect underneath. This latest move is somewhat funky shape, but I need to protect somewhere and I don't think it leaves too bad aji. Some of the remaining points I'm after:

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . b . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . a . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . c . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . d . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


"a" because it's really valuable compared to him getting one point to the right at R9 (which kinda works for him right now, although I'm pretty sure I don't die anywhere). "b" because it carries on the plan of pushing into his territory, although one point below may be stronger, I was kind of planning on treating :w76: as light. "c" because it fixes any cut nonsense and allows me to save my central stones without harming the bottom too badly, and "d" for the following sequence that I mentioned earlier:

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . 9 O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . 0 O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . 9 O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 5 X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . 7 3 4 X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | 2 C O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . O O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I suspect :b83: should be the first move in this, as it creates all the problems, and the choice of which group to go crazy against will depend on White's response.

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Post #130 Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:08 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 9 . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 9 . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . a . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

looking at a and trying to connect

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Post #131 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:02 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 9 . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 0 . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


continuing into Black's area of influence. Killing is now impossible, so I see no reason to look after :b76: directly. Instead, I'm trying to keep some forward momentum

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Post #132 Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:44 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This may be slight paranoia but I feel like this is necessary to connect


edit:
sorry added number


Last edited by speedchase on Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #133 Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:46 pm 
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Is it just me or does anyone else think black 76 was not great?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . a b . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X 6 . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this move helps black to make shape and relieves some of the pressure on the black dragon.
I was considering something like a or b instead. Maybe white is worried about the connection to the two stones he previously played in the center, but they are kikashi so can probably be treated lightly. Even if they are lost, white can still break into the center by sacrificing them. Also, black is too weak to cut the two stones off immediately anyway.

Black is unlikely to die, so I think white needs to bank a profit out of this attack while black still feels uneasy. I want to know what topazg is aiming for!

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Post #134 Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:57 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sorry about delay, I've had a difficult last couple of months :)

I'm pulling back here because the hane likely to be gote. Obviously this doesn't need a response, but the long knight slide is nice enough endgame that it's not unreasonable for Black to respond directly. I'll do a score count at some point, but Black looks a bit short on points at first glance.

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Post #135 Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:23 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No problem I hope you are doing better

I am not certain, but I am fairly confident that this is necessary to avoid getting cut.

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Post #136 Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:24 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This bend looks ultra stabilising for my group if he ignores it, and a useful launching platform into the middle if he responds. It also prevents Black from making too many points in this area. I'm trying to keep open a number of further options to reduce his position from different angles.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i want to stay connect here

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Post #138 Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:35 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I was already a bit worried about this group and side generally, so I'll reinforce here. I think I've probably done sufficient damage to the middle for it to be quite hard for Black to build a large number of points, and I still have plenty of useful endgame I think.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Very large endgame, because I can play on either side

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Post #140 Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:06 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . 8 7 . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


That's nice, he's fixed my left side aji for me :)

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