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 Post subject: Re: #159 - opex vs Nome
Post #61 Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:52 am 
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So, I don't think this move requires to much explanation, but I want to go over my last move.

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$$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . b O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Essentially, I considered continuing playing in the bottom left part in the board with either a or b. I think the point A is pretty big for either player, and I would like to get sente at some point so that I can come back and play it. The cut at B seems interesting, but I don't really know how I could follow it up. I know that trying to kill that white group is probably the wrong idea, so I want to attack it for profit, but I don't think I can at this point. If white takes the time to come back and fix the cut, I will get to play a free move elsewhere.

Ultimately, my groups seem strong enough in the bottom left that I can invade up top. 3-3 seems the simplest so that's what I chose.


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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #62 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:31 am 
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Hane at the head of two stones cannot be bad :)
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #63 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:40 am 
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Not much to say here.


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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . 2 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #64 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:26 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #65 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:21 pm 
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$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #66 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:11 pm 
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Well, can't decide between b13 and c13. c13 is joseki, but having c12 in place, it feels overconcentrated. But with b13 some complications may occur soon...
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #67 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:01 am 
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still not much to say


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$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #68 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:38 am 
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$$ | . . . X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #69 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:31 am 
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He will protect the cut, and then I will play E8 like I've been wanting to. I don't think he can afford to leave the cut.


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$$ | . . 2 X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #70 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:54 am 
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定石です (jouseki desu) :)
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$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 1 . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #71 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:34 am 
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As I mentioned earlier, I feel like this move is really big for both white and black, so I am going to take. I feel like I still have a lead in this game, so I am not going to try anything drastic. I'll probably try counting the score in the next few turns, but I am currently feeling kind of lazy and I am sitting in a class.



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$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #72 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:27 am 
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I'll venture to connect that stone to steal some territory. Now it's time for him to attack the g5 group.
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$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
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Post #73 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:23 am 
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Have either of you done a score count recent? If so, what's you strategy around it?

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Post #74 Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:31 pm 
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I wonder what happened to Nome.. He hasn't been here for a week already

topazg, i haven't :)

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Post #75 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:23 am 
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May i claim timeout and read hidden comments? :)

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