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Offline lesenv
 Post subject: Re: #182 Nathan vs. lesenv
Post #61 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:37 pm 
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seal off the side

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[go]$$Wcm24 Prisoners: none
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Offline Nathan
 Post subject: Re: #182 Nathan vs. lesenv
Post #62 Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:07 am 
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[go]$$Wcm24 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


the three stones are fairly small but it preserves the aji in bs shape
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Offline lesenv
 Post subject: Re: #182 Nathan vs. lesenv
Post #63 Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:22 am 
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i first thought that a ladder would be better than a net, because i now need two moves instead one to capture the splitting move.
now, i have the better shape than with the ladder.

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[go]$$Wcm24 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . X . . |
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Offline Nathan
 Post subject: Re: #182 Nathan vs. lesenv
Post #64 Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:58 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm24 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . X . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I chose to tenuki because the potential on the top left side is limited by H17.

H17 also makes the left side have the most potential for b. I chose the 4th line over the third line to gain some influence in the center.
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Offline lesenv
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Post #65 Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:31 pm 
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i have two ideas: pincer or back off. i tried both (a little bit, i'm not sure at all):
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[go]$$Bcm30 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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[go]$$Bcm30 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i prefer the pincer, it looks better with the "enclosure" in the top left

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[go]$$Bcm30 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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Offline Nathan
 Post subject: Re: #182 Nathan vs. lesenv
Post #66 Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:55 am 
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[go]$$Bcm30 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

With such a wide pincer I think the best move is to approach from the other side. I chose the 4th line instead of third line so the stones work together better.
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Offline lesenv
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Post #67 Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:30 am 
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[go]$$Bm1
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$$ | . . . . 9 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 7 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 3 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O 6 . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

if :w6: is elsewhere (doesn't defend this), i can play there and live

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[go]$$Bcm30 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
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$$ | . . . X . 2 . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Nathan
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Post #68 Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:28 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm30 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 2 . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]




Sorry for the slow response, I'll try and be more timely moving forward.
Ok the 3-3 stone takes away the base and gives him a choice of which side he values as more important.

I also considered f5, but that is pushing from behind and gives black great shape.

I am expecting black to block at c4 adn expand his moyo which I will have to invade later.
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Offline lesenv
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Post #69 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:18 am 
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no problem, no rush :tmbup:
once again i didn't see it coming, interesting
here i should block the wider side... just what is bigger? on the left side i have a _big_ knight, that is transforming to a moyo. on the other hand is on the bottom, there's the influence on the right side, a potential moyo, too.
and i have :b30: standing by. white will be under pressure, but my stone will be hurt, too, not?
i'll go with my gut-feeling

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[go]$$Bcm30 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 2 . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 4 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Nathan
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Post #70 Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:40 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm30 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 X . 2 . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 4 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this was the wrong direction for black because there I feel there is slightly more potential on the left side than the bottom
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Offline lesenv
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Post #71 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:23 am 
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i try to strengthen my string of stones while attacking the white strong stones. in a few moves in G5/H4-area will probably strengthen my stones.

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[go]$$Bcm36 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Offline Nathan
 Post subject: Re: #182 Nathan vs. lesenv
Post #72 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:15 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm36 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This move solidifies the corner and also threatns the cut of bs group. I considered a more conservative c5 but i think d5 doenst create too much aji for w.

I also considered moving ahead with d7, but this leaves too much aji for w.

My plan is for b to connect which will allow me to play along the bottom side reducing blacks walls effectiveness.
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #73 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:51 pm 
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white last move help black more than white

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Offline lesenv
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Post #74 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:23 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm36 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 3 O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Offline Nathan
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Post #75 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:06 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm36 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 3 O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I beleive this is necessary because hte hane at the head of two stoens will be too painful



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[go]$$Bcm36 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 5 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 3 O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #182 Nathan vs. lesenv
Post #76 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:21 pm 
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they both appears to be same reading strength. why are they playing handy?

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Offline lesenv
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Post #77 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:57 am 
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[go]$$Bcm40 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . O X O O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O 1 . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Offline Marcus
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Post #78 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:11 am 
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lesenv:
Could you elaborate on your thoughts regarding this move?


Observers only:
This is a pass, isn't it?
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Offline skydyr
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Post #79 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:02 am 
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Marcus wrote:
Observers only:
This is a pass, isn't it?

I think the idea is to remove aji from that one white stone, but it seems like black should either extend from the wall properly, or take a big point like closing a corner.
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Offline EdLee
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Marcus,
Marcus wrote:
This is a pass, isn't it?
:b40: is not a pass, but either B(a) or B(b) is probably better:
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
The clamp :b40: = :bc: allows W the powerful turn of :w1::
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[go]$$W
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O B . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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