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Author:  lovelove [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:22 am ]
Post subject:  #199 Shaddy vs lovelove Sunjang Malkovich
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Japanese rules, 6.5 komi, black's first move should be at tengen

Nigiri
:b7:
Author:  Shaddy [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:38 am ]
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Odd
Author:  lovelove [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:01 am ]
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Shaddy wrote:
Odd

You are right!

Choose your color. If white, play tengen yourself and also play your move.
Author:  Shaddy [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:00 pm ]
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I was going to play there even if it weren't sunjang baduk.
Author:  lovelove [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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I can't read anything now, just feel better playing this way. I thought about some territory moves such as 3-3 invasion or Q17, but playing those now may cause me losing the initiative of this game. I have komi and sente, but black tengen is in a very good position. I need to be more stronger on the center.
Author:  Shaddy [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:26 pm ]
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Thinking for a while, I have no idea what to do. Everything is difficult to attack, so I'll become thick first.
Author:  tj86430 [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:37 pm ]
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I think this is going to be much more instructive to follow than I first thought. :tmbup:
Author:  lovelove [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:47 pm ]
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Just the same idea
Author:  Shaddy [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:49 pm ]
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Play on the point of symmetry.. I want to reinforce the center, but I realized I just wanted to play tengen again. Leave it to him to attack me, I will be the one making profit.
Author:  Bill Spight [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:55 pm ]
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I'm putting my money on lovelove. First, I think that 6.5 komi may be too much. Second, I think that the center fight will be very important, and Shaddy is not preparing for it.

We shall see. :)
Author:  lovelove [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:02 pm ]
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I'll go on my way, letting him go his way. I'm quite happy now with the board position.
Author:  Shaddy [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:24 pm ]
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I'm using my thickness on the top right to press on him while strengthening myself. He will have to find a way to reinforce that does not look awkward, and which cannot be cut, but I don't think he can find one. If he tries to counterattack from the left, I will respond a few times, becoming stronger, and then cut him on the right. The stone on left isn't concerning; there's still plenty of time to save it, since he is not thick there. This is one of the ways to use thickness.
Author:  lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:46 am ]
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I never expected he'd do that haengma. I can't understand that move, but doesn't look like a good move. It forces nothing, and he's just giving me a chance to play an important move.
Author:  p2501 [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:15 am ]
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I love how even in higher-dan-Malkovich-games, the positional judgement varies so much :)
Author:  Shaddy [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:53 am ]
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This stage of the game is really uncomfortable for me. I should have picked a fight earlier..
Author:  lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:00 am ]
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I want to keep his stones split.
Author:  skydyr [ Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:23 am ]
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I am finding this game quite interesting. You can feel the tension for a massive fight building with every move because everything is so thin.
Author:  tomukaze [ Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:49 am ]
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skydyr wrote:
I am finding this game quite interesting. You can feel the tension for a massive fight building with every move because everything is so thin.
Me too! Can't wait to see how the centre fight flows.
Author:  Shaddy [ Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:53 pm ]
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One of us is about to get messed up.
Author:  illluck [ Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:16 pm ]
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I can't imagine how this fight will end well for black.
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