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Offline skydyr
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #81 Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:19 am 
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I find it interesting that both players think they are far behind, and as The Intrepid said, are both tenukiing or considering it from the big fight on the top side.

Complicated position? Unsettled situations? I'm not sure what is causing these assesments, but they can't both be right.


EDIT:
I do know that if I'm not counting closely, I often feel like I'm behind when I don't have a clear lead (i.e. the game is even).

My own current assessment is that black is ahead in settled or likely territory, but white has a group to attack that is too heavy to sacrifice. Depending on how much he can get out of the attack, he may turn out ahead or be able to invade black's sides with impunity.
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Offline Unusedname
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #82 Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:10 am 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . W . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . a . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . c . b . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . B . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


right now I'm looking at A and B

a I can hane under his stones or try to separate this group and attack it.

b I can threaten to cut and then follow up around c to break the net and cut off his lone stone.

Then I can invade inside three space 4th line jump and suddenly his group is looking flat.

I think I'm about 15points behind so I need to play something desperate like this.
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Offline Unusedname
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #83 Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:21 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


sorry for taking so long.

this hurts my top group.. Idk how hard I can fight here....
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Offline hailthorn011
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #84 Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:39 am 
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No worries. Take as much time as you need. I know I've been slow on previous moves! :salute:

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . B . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Expected.

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Offline Unusedname
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #85 Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:13 am 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . W O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I feel relieved on seeing this. idk it seems soft.

i think i need this move to separate. If i'm not careful i will hurt my own group too much...

I'm not sure I'm not sure...

looks like there's something at these areas...

s14, r10, r8
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Offline hailthorn011
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #86 Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:30 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . B . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Unusedname
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #87 Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:29 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . W O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i'm scared.
So he's threatening to cut me while protecting the cut if he hane's my two stones.

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X 4 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . 2 O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . 3 O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


and i think his group is back to no eyes.
I'm not really sure how this will go.
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Offline hailthorn011
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #88 Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:00 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O B . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . W O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline The Intrepid
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #89 Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:17 pm 
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Black appears to have made a mistake because the move in the game does not give Black an eye in sente. Instead, "a" or "b" should have been chosen.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X b . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . a O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

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Offline Unusedname
 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #90 Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:24 am 
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hmmm

seems like a strange response. it's not really sente. and i don't think it's two eyes.

my first instinct is play :w2:

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O 2 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X 5 6 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . 4 X 7 . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


and see what happens from there.

but i'm drunk so i'll wait til the morning.

even though he played gote to save his group i still think i'm losing.

idk if just saving this two stones is enough.
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 Post subject: Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)
Post #91 Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:57 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . W X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this move first is better.

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . 6 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . 2 X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . 5 3 O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Therefore black would need a different 5

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . 5 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . 2 X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . 7 3 O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 6 8 . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


and then I can come out.

Therefore I do not think black can cut with 3

so

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O 4 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . 2 X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

if black plays 3 here he commits to giving away the corner.
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Post #92 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:06 am 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X B . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #93 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:14 am 
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Sup dude. Welcome back

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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O W . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Thankfully I put a spoiler in my previous move (And I suppose every move I played.) and therefore know that i thought this would be a good move!
So I'll play it.
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Post #94 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:09 pm 
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X X B X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #95 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:55 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O O W . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


the corner should be dead now settling my group and still leaving separation aji with my other white stones.
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Post #96 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:33 pm 
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Hm, yeah, I definitely read this wrong. I'm going to go ahead and resign. Thanks for the game. :D

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Post #97 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:44 pm 
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There's still plenty of play left in the position, as far as I can see. I'd definitely play on here.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . 2 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . 1 O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . 3 O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Oh, well. Good game! :)

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Post #98 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:47 pm 
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The Intrepid wrote:
There's still plenty of play left in the position, as far as I can see. I'd definitely play on here.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . 2 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . 1 O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . 3 O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Oh, well. Good game! :)


YEah, that's what I wanted to do, but then I thought maybe surrendering the corner like that was too big of a loss.

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Post #99 Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:53 pm 
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My motto is "never give up, never surrender," so maybe I'm not the most objective person about such things, but, yeah, I don't think the game was lost, yet.

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Post #100 Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:52 pm 
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I thought you might try something like intrepid suggested or maybe push the corner our I wasn't sure but it looked like there was some bad aji.
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