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 Post subject: Re: #224. graemy vs uriel
Post #121 Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:06 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm90 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm really not sure about this one... I looked at a, b and c, but while c is actually even bigger than I thought (I pretty much must play the ko, I misread that he had gote life, since he can threaten to come underneath me on the left) I am worried about x. Normally that would be an overplay I think, but here I can't really cut since he has such influence in the center, so my only option is to be pressed down.
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[go]$$Wcm90 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . a . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . x 1 . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O c . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I'm behind, but I think it maybe close enough to keep playing.

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Post #122 Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:22 am 
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[go]$$Wcm90 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


oh god, what am I doing :I

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Post #123 Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:42 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm92 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . 1 , . . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There's too much for me to read it all, but what I've looked into seems the best I can do. I can answer a with b, and I think I prevent local life for black while making some points, which is probably my best course of action.

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[go]$$Wcm92 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . a . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . b O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . 1 , . . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #124 Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:13 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to see what I can get here

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Post #125 Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:32 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm94 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O , 1 . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Divide and conquer. I'm very surprised at graemy's last move, it seems much like a pass to me... I think black can have life already, although small, so I don't understand the point of taking this aji. I'm happy to exchange our last two moves.

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Post #126 Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:13 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . 2 O , O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:I hmm :I a lot of aji is building up. It feels like it will build up and burst like a dam.

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Post #127 Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:38 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm96 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . B O , O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I need to cut here instead of the other side, because I don't think graemy can live easily if I separate this way. Black might opt for the ko variation I suppose...

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Post #128 Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:30 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . X O , O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

O: I'm getting myself into all sorts of trouble :I

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Post #129 Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:37 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm98 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O B . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . X O , O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The only move

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Post #130 Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:54 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . X O 2 O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #131 Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:30 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm100 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . X O B O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O 1 . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is really my only move here

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Post #132 Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:47 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O 2 . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


now what :I

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Post #133 Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:09 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm102 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O B . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I have to continue to keep'em separated as The Offspring would say. This fight is quite complicated, so I won't write out all that I've read through. I'm very much anticipating b8 however, as this is normally not tenukied and does start the large corner fight. Black could start the ko corner fight too however...

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Post #134 Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:27 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm102 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

here first. In a few moves, I'll try and explain how I am feeling about the game so far.

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Post #135 Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:44 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm104 Captures: B=0 W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 1 M O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . B X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The only move here. Now, if graemy plays a8, a7 or starts the ko I've read a bit of that out. I suppose he might just try to connect the left, in which case I'll have to do some more reading.


Edited: forgot to actually capture the stone

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Post #136 Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:13 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O 2 . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Sacrifice everything? Maybe O:

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Post #137 Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:19 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm106 Captures: B=0 W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X 1 . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O B . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I looked at several moves here, mostly this extension and atari at d8. I still think this way is my strongest attack. I'm not afraid of
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[go]$$Wcm106 Captures: B=0 W=1\n\n Any variation of this extension shouldn't work from what I've read.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . 5 . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . 4 O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . 2 3 . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X 1 . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O B . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm106 Captures: B=0 W=1\n\n This should be okay for me as well, unless I misread some variations here.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . 2 4 O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X 1 3 . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O M 5 . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My main goal here is to keep the d9 and c8 stones separated from the c11 stones because then I have can perhaps use a splitting attack on the corner and the d9/c8 groups, securing the corner in sente while keeping pressure on these ones. I should still have enough aji in the upper left corner to make a mess, so I think I'll be okay. I'm feeling optimistic overall.

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Post #138 Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:53 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm106 Captures: B=0 W=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #139 Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:27 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . B . O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O 1 . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The only move here. This doesn't surprise me, seems like black's best move here

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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X 2 O . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X O . . . . X . X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O . X O . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . O X X . O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . X . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

oops :I forgot to put this. I'm gonna try and get what I can here and then post what I think about the game

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